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The point being made is that there are ways of mitigating the risk. That for some reason you are other people don't believe can be done at all. This is patently

The point being made is that there are ways of mitigating the risk. That for some reason you are other people don't believe can be done at all. This is patently false. Also just because there is a camera and a screen doesn't mean people will look!

ceejayoz 1y ago
> The point being made is that there are ways of mitigating the risk. Yes, like a backup camera. > Also just because there is a camera and a screen doesn't mean people will look! The number who will is well above zero. (This critique also applies to your proposed mitigations, yes?)
- BanterTrouble 1y ago
  > Yes, like a backup camera. Well you've just twisted what I said because you are getting angry. So we will leave it there.
  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    Is a backup camera not a way "of mitigating the risk" when reversing? Which is easier, installing them in new vehicles, or making a billion drivers undertake remedial training in basic safety? > you are getting angry If you say so. I've gotten angry on here, but it takes a lot more than someone who thinks they can see through their bumper.
    - BanterTrouble 1y ago
      > Is a backup camera not a way "of mitigating the risk" when reversing? You knew I was referring to other methods mitigation the risk and decided to get a quick jab in at me. That was disingenuous. I don't appreciate it. > Which is easier, installing them in new vehicles, or making a billion drivers undertake remedial training in basic safety? Driver awareness can be done through other means than re-training. > If you say so. I've gotten angry on here, but it takes a lot more than someone who thinks they can see through their bumper. I never said that and obviously don't believe that. Funny how at the start of this reply you were pretending you weren't engaging in that behaviour. I wouldn't bother replying, you won't get another one.
      - ceejayoz 1y ago
        > You knew I was referring to other methods mitigation the risk… Yes, I do. And I'm wondering why this one doesn't count. > Driver awareness can be done through other means that re-training. Such as? (Ironically, the serious answer to this is "stuff like backup cameras". Which improve driver awareness when backing.) > I never said that and obviously don't believe that. You: "However the backup camera being required by law is absolutely ridiculous. You can just either use the mirrors or turn your head." How do you use those two techniques to see things in the blind spot behind the bumper without its being transparent?
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        BanterTrouble 1y ago
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      - idiotsecant 1y ago
        You are coming across as weirdly unhinged about this.

ceejayoz 1y ago

> The point being made is that there are ways of mitigating the risk. Yes, like a backup camera. > Also just because there is a camera and a screen doesn't mean people will look! The number who will is well above zero. (This critique also applies to your proposed mitigations, yes?)

BanterTrouble 1y ago
> Yes, like a backup camera. Well you've just twisted what I said because you are getting angry. So we will leave it there.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  Is a backup camera not a way "of mitigating the risk" when reversing? Which is easier, installing them in new vehicles, or making a billion drivers undertake remedial training in basic safety? > you are getting angry If you say so. I've gotten angry on here, but it takes a lot more than someone who thinks they can see through their bumper.
  - BanterTrouble 1y ago
    > Is a backup camera not a way "of mitigating the risk" when reversing? You knew I was referring to other methods mitigation the risk and decided to get a quick jab in at me. That was disingenuous. I don't appreciate it. > Which is easier, installing them in new vehicles, or making a billion drivers undertake remedial training in basic safety? Driver awareness can be done through other means than re-training. > If you say so. I've gotten angry on here, but it takes a lot more than someone who thinks they can see through their bumper. I never said that and obviously don't believe that. Funny how at the start of this reply you were pretending you weren't engaging in that behaviour. I wouldn't bother replying, you won't get another one.
    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      > You knew I was referring to other methods mitigation the risk… Yes, I do. And I'm wondering why this one doesn't count. > Driver awareness can be done through other means that re-training. Such as? (Ironically, the serious answer to this is "stuff like backup cameras". Which improve driver awareness when backing.) > I never said that and obviously don't believe that. You: "However the backup camera being required by law is absolutely ridiculous. You can just either use the mirrors or turn your head." How do you use those two techniques to see things in the blind spot behind the bumper without its being transparent?
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      - BanterTrouble 1y ago
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    - idiotsecant 1y ago
      You are coming across as weirdly unhinged about this.