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This makes sense from a national security perspective. China is a unified AI strategy, and America can either lead or fall behind, in which case we will all be

This makes sense from a national security perspective. China is a unified AI strategy, and America can either lead or fall behind, in which case we will all be using Chinese models that bend reality towards CCP's preferred idealogy (look into Deepseek censorship to see how this will work). If AI companies have to navigate 50 different AI regulatory regimes it will bog down progress. I know my opinions are often unpopular here on HN. It's unfortunate that so many people resort to flagging them based on disagreements.

bgwalter 1y ago
I don't buy that. You can block Chinese companies. Human influencers are more effective than "AI" slop, etc. And again (you didn't make that argument, just for completeness' sake): Military applications aren't affected anyway. They can train on whatever they want as long as the products stay in the military and do not compete with writers and artists etc.
silverquiet 1y ago
I actually tend to agree with this sentiment, but the fate of the Tiktok ban should probably be instructive here. America (at least the current government) is not really interested in world or technological leadership anymore.
blibble 1y ago
> in which case we will all be using Chinese models that bend reality towards CCP's preferred idealogy quite how this is worse than what zuckerberg or elon want I really don't know
kelseyfrog 1y ago
What a tough nut to crack because almost every issue can be reduced to national security. What scissor do you use when deciding whether the national security perspective justifies other consequences like loss of freedom?
throwworhtthrow 1y ago
AI companies already need to navigate multiple regulatory regimes. Chinese companies are not exempt. If a few states adopt more stringent rules, US-based companies will likely have an easier time meeting them than foreign companies. Don't you think Facebook and Google helped shape the CCPA to make compliance easier for them, perhaps to the detriment of foreign competition?

bgwalter 1y ago

I don't buy that. You can block Chinese companies. Human influencers are more effective than "AI" slop, etc. And again (you didn't make that argument, just for completeness' sake): Military applications aren't affected anyway. They can train on whatever they want as long as the products stay in the military and do not compete with writers and artists etc.

silverquiet 1y ago

I actually tend to agree with this sentiment, but the fate of the Tiktok ban should probably be instructive here. America (at least the current government) is not really interested in world or technological leadership anymore.

blibble 1y ago

> in which case we will all be using Chinese models that bend reality towards CCP's preferred idealogy quite how this is worse than what zuckerberg or elon want I really don't know

kelseyfrog 1y ago

What a tough nut to crack because almost every issue can be reduced to national security. What scissor do you use when deciding whether the national security perspective justifies other consequences like loss of freedom?

throwworhtthrow 1y ago

AI companies already need to navigate multiple regulatory regimes. Chinese companies are not exempt. If a few states adopt more stringent rules, US-based companies will likely have an easier time meeting them than foreign companies. Don't you think Facebook and Google helped shape the CCPA to make compliance easier for them, perhaps to the detriment of foreign competition?