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So basically compressing the pay scale even further …

by 486sx33 1y ago

eru 1y ago
Well, many people complain about pay inequality. Compressing scales is the opposite of that, so should be welcomed?
- landl0rd 1y ago
  Most of those people aren’t working in highly-paid disciplines like high tech. Generally those disciplines necessarily have wider spreads. I am perfectly fine with this. If I suddenly have to think really hard at my job all day and do terribly if I’m undersea and still get paid the same or less, I will be left pretty bitter.
  - eru 1y ago
    Wouldn't AI mean you have to think less hard than before?
    - bluefirebrand 1y ago
      No, solving problems yourself is easier than understanding solutions that AI serves to you
      - malfist 1y ago
        Yeah, but I could just not understand the AI solution and just run with whatever it give me. No effort there. If something doesn't work, I can just tell the AI to fix it. (Not a serious suggestion, but I do see this in the wild a lot)
        bluefirebrand 1y ago
        Yes, I do unfortunately see this in the wild a lot as well Maybe I'm the one who is ultimately a sucker, because I take too much pride in my work to do this But I always thought that the quality of my work and my effort would be tied to my reputation, but I don't think the world works that way unless you are very well known somehow
      - eru 1y ago
        I'm not so sure. An analogy: any idiot can take a calculus class today, but it took Leibniz and Newton to come up with it in the first place. (And even those geniuses didn't do it properly: it took until the likes of Karl Weierstrass and friends to put analysis on a firm footing.)
        sublinear 1y ago
        AI generated code in all but the most trivial cases is never production ready. In the real world, the resulting code that correctly and efficiently solves a problem ends up being unique enough such that an AI wouldn't learn much even if you fed this result back in. It's just going to average away all the important parts that made it correct. If real world code wasn't so sparse and time consuming to develop it wouldn't be so valuable in the first place. Not to mention the fact that the maintenance is what you really care about and where the real costs are. Application code doesn't stand still.
- spookie 1y ago
  the compression is happening only to those still hired, though
  - venturd 1y ago
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So basically compressing the pay scale even further …

eru 1y ago

Well, many people complain about pay inequality. Compressing scales is the opposite of that, so should be welcomed?

landl0rd 1y ago
Most of those people aren’t working in highly-paid disciplines like high tech. Generally those disciplines necessarily have wider spreads. I am perfectly fine with this. If I suddenly have to think really hard at my job all day and do terribly if I’m undersea and still get paid the same or less, I will be left pretty bitter.
- eru 1y ago
  Wouldn't AI mean you have to think less hard than before?
  - bluefirebrand 1y ago
    No, solving problems yourself is easier than understanding solutions that AI serves to you
    - malfist 1y ago
      Yeah, but I could just not understand the AI solution and just run with whatever it give me. No effort there. If something doesn't work, I can just tell the AI to fix it. (Not a serious suggestion, but I do see this in the wild a lot)
      - bluefirebrand 1y ago
        Yes, I do unfortunately see this in the wild a lot as well Maybe I'm the one who is ultimately a sucker, because I take too much pride in my work to do this But I always thought that the quality of my work and my effort would be tied to my reputation, but I don't think the world works that way unless you are very well known somehow
    - eru 1y ago
      I'm not so sure. An analogy: any idiot can take a calculus class today, but it took Leibniz and Newton to come up with it in the first place. (And even those geniuses didn't do it properly: it took until the likes of Karl Weierstrass and friends to put analysis on a firm footing.)
      - sublinear 1y ago
        AI generated code in all but the most trivial cases is never production ready. In the real world, the resulting code that correctly and efficiently solves a problem ends up being unique enough such that an AI wouldn't learn much even if you fed this result back in. It's just going to average away all the important parts that made it correct. If real world code wasn't so sparse and time consuming to develop it wouldn't be so valuable in the first place. Not to mention the fact that the maintenance is what you really care about and where the real costs are. Application code doesn't stand still.
spookie 1y ago
the compression is happening only to those still hired, though
- venturd 1y ago
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