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I follow the pro/anti natalist space and I'm not sure if anybody is "screaming" at people to have more kids.
by jf22 1y ago
I follow the pro/anti natalist space and I'm not sure if anybody is "screaming" at people to have more kids.
- assbuttbuttass 1y agoHow about the vice president https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-childless-cat-ladies-birth-rates-555c0f78ef8dd4c13c88b9e8d5f0024a https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-childless-cat-ladies-bir...
- jf22 1y agoIs this "screaming?"
- Analemma_ 1y agoIt’s less “screaming” and more “tut-tut moralizing and shaming”. Ironically, it’s mostly from the same people who spent the previous decades going “don’t have kids you can’t afford!” and are now appalled that people took their advice.
- js8 1y agoWasn't the previous advice meant for black and muslim people, rather than WASPs?
- otikik 1y agoI happen to live near a very religious community, and I share some common spaces with some of the families coming from that background (swimming pool, parks). They don't scream, but the social pressure is absolutely there.
- toomuchtodo 1y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44423897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44423897 https://www.npr.org/2025/04/30/nx-s1-5382208/whats-behind-the-pronatalist-movement-to-boost-the-birth-rate https://www.npr.org/2025/04/30/nx-s1-5382208/whats-behind-th... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bridget-phillipson-england-daily-telegraph-britons-wales-b2779310.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bridget-phil... https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jun/25/parenting-progressive-childrearing https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jun/25/parenti... https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/may/25/american-pronatalists-malcolm-and-simone-collins https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/may/25... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/11/what-is-pronatalism-right-wing-republican https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/11/what-is-pron... https://www.vox.com/policy/363543/pronatalism-vance-birth-rates-population-decline-fertility https://www.vox.com/policy/363543/pronatalism-vance-birth-ra... https://www.heritage.org/marriage-and-family/commentary/the-pronatalism-silicon-valley https://www.heritage.org/marriage-and-family/commentary/the-... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/style/women-pronatalist-movement.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/style/women-pronatalist-m... https://fairerdisputations.org/have-more-kids/ https://fairerdisputations.org/have-more-kids/ https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-parental-dead-end-of-consent-morality-e4e8a8ee https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-parental-dead-end-of-consent-m... As someone who also follows pro/anti natalist space closely, I'm not worried pronatlism efforts are going to move the needle though. https://www.axios.com/2024/07/25/adults-no-children-why-pew-data https://www.axios.com/2024/07/25/adults-no-children-why-pew-... https://iop.harvard.edu/youth-poll/50th-edition-spring-2025 https://iop.harvard.edu/youth-poll/50th-edition-spring-2025 https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jesusfv/Slides_London.pdf https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jesusfv/Slides_London.pdf
- jf22 1y agoThis is people talking about the issue, not "screaming."