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Because nobody's TODO list is empty. Just because you can "accomplish" tasks in less time does not mean that the next task doesn't need to be started until next

Because nobody's TODO list is empty. Just because you can "accomplish" tasks in less time does not mean that the next task doesn't need to be started until next week. It just means you can close your tickets faster, not that there's nothing left to do.

tempfile 1y ago
Do you come in on Saturdays, since your TODO list is still not empty?
- dylan604 1y ago
  When I was an hourly employee, I used to come in on Saturdays and earn 1.5x and then on Sunday to earn 2x. That was when I was young and dumb with nothing else to do to fill those hours so why not make some extra money? Now that I’m no longer hourly, I work for as long as necessary to accomplish task by deadline. It is none of my employer’s, nor yours, business how I spend that time as long as deadlines are being met
  - tempfile 1y ago
    > It is none of my employer’s business how I spend that time as long as deadlines are being met This contradicts what you already said ("there are always more TODOs"). Which one should I reply to? If your employment has fixed deadlines, and your employer does not react to efficiency increases by setting earlier deadlines, then you should expect the headline effect (efficiency increases mean your weekly hours decrease).
    - dylan604 1y ago
      Again though, how I manage my time is my business. If I'm assigned a task on Monday with a deadline for Friday, I can finish it on Monday and have it ready for the Friday deadline and then spend my time how I wish OR I can report the task completed and then expect to have more tasks assigned. There's no need to have a negotiation with how any tools that I use makes me more efficient. You seem to be unable to manage your own time and need to be told by employer when to have time off. That's something you should try changing rather than expecting the world to change to how you want to spend time.
      - tempfile 1y ago
        If how you manage your time is your business, why are you replying to an article about changing the length of the work week? You are telling us that nobody mandates your work week. Most employees are not in that situation. > I can finish it on Monday and have it ready for the Friday deadline and then spend my time how I wish OR I can report the task completed and then expect to have more tasks assigned Are you serious? Do you think you just have free choice of whether to do more work or not? If you completed a task in 15 minutes and spent the rest of the week surfing do you think that would be allowed by your employer? Most employee contracts would forbid it.
toomuchtodo 1y ago
Work fills the time you allow it to (Parkinson's law). We could all work 7 days a week. Should we? Why? You get one life. Work is like oxygen; you need it to survive, but it isn’t the point of living.
- burnt-resistor 1y ago
  Obligatory: username checks out.
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- munksbeer 1y ago
  You'd need regulation to prevent people from working more. If I want to live in a particularly desirable house, I have to earn more money than the other people who want to live there too, so I can outbid them. So I'll work harder than them to do so. (Trivial concocted example for illustration purposes, not meant to be nitpicked)
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mistrial9 1y ago
The Chinese "996" work system refers to a schedule where employees work from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week, totaling 72 hours per week. This system is common in some Chinese tech companies and startups. While not officially mandated, it is often encouraged or expected...
- dylan604 1y ago
  Not really sure what this has to do with the price of tea in China, but okay, now I know a new term. When you accepted a job at a company, there was an agreement on wages earned for work performed. If there was a definition of the hours to be worked that you agreed to, then you should not be shocked when you realize the company expects that many hours from you. Just because you have become more efficient does not mean you owe less hours than what was agreed upon when accepting the position. If you want to renegotiate your position, that’s between you and the employer. Do not be surprised if your desire for fewer hours is followed by a lower wages as a response.
  - _DeadFred_ 1y ago
    Such a 2025 response.
    - dylan604 1y ago
      I really have no idea what your point is with that
      - mistrial9 1y ago
        it might mean that you are obtusely defending a point of view that ultimately, rationalizes any amount of work for any amount of hours assigned to a helpless cog knowledge worker. "We pay you for that" turns into "you are responsible for that" turns into "do it or you are fired" and "its not done you cant leave until it is done and why did you waste time and why are you failing at this task I gave you" etc..

tempfile 1y ago

Do you come in on Saturdays, since your TODO list is still not empty?

dylan604 1y ago
When I was an hourly employee, I used to come in on Saturdays and earn 1.5x and then on Sunday to earn 2x. That was when I was young and dumb with nothing else to do to fill those hours so why not make some extra money? Now that I’m no longer hourly, I work for as long as necessary to accomplish task by deadline. It is none of my employer’s, nor yours, business how I spend that time as long as deadlines are being met
- tempfile 1y ago
  > It is none of my employer’s business how I spend that time as long as deadlines are being met This contradicts what you already said ("there are always more TODOs"). Which one should I reply to? If your employment has fixed deadlines, and your employer does not react to efficiency increases by setting earlier deadlines, then you should expect the headline effect (efficiency increases mean your weekly hours decrease).
  - dylan604 1y ago
    Again though, how I manage my time is my business. If I'm assigned a task on Monday with a deadline for Friday, I can finish it on Monday and have it ready for the Friday deadline and then spend my time how I wish OR I can report the task completed and then expect to have more tasks assigned. There's no need to have a negotiation with how any tools that I use makes me more efficient. You seem to be unable to manage your own time and need to be told by employer when to have time off. That's something you should try changing rather than expecting the world to change to how you want to spend time.
    - tempfile 1y ago
      If how you manage your time is your business, why are you replying to an article about changing the length of the work week? You are telling us that nobody mandates your work week. Most employees are not in that situation. > I can finish it on Monday and have it ready for the Friday deadline and then spend my time how I wish OR I can report the task completed and then expect to have more tasks assigned Are you serious? Do you think you just have free choice of whether to do more work or not? If you completed a task in 15 minutes and spent the rest of the week surfing do you think that would be allowed by your employer? Most employee contracts would forbid it.

toomuchtodo 1y ago

Work fills the time you allow it to (Parkinson's law). We could all work 7 days a week. Should we? Why? You get one life. Work is like oxygen; you need it to survive, but it isn’t the point of living.

burnt-resistor 1y ago
Obligatory: username checks out.
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munksbeer 1y ago
You'd need regulation to prevent people from working more. If I want to live in a particularly desirable house, I have to earn more money than the other people who want to live there too, so I can outbid them. So I'll work harder than them to do so. (Trivial concocted example for illustration purposes, not meant to be nitpicked)

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mistrial9 1y ago

The Chinese "996" work system refers to a schedule where employees work from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week, totaling 72 hours per week. This system is common in some Chinese tech companies and startups. While not officially mandated, it is often encouraged or expected...

dylan604 1y ago
Not really sure what this has to do with the price of tea in China, but okay, now I know a new term. When you accepted a job at a company, there was an agreement on wages earned for work performed. If there was a definition of the hours to be worked that you agreed to, then you should not be shocked when you realize the company expects that many hours from you. Just because you have become more efficient does not mean you owe less hours than what was agreed upon when accepting the position. If you want to renegotiate your position, that’s between you and the employer. Do not be surprised if your desire for fewer hours is followed by a lower wages as a response.
- _DeadFred_ 1y ago
  Such a 2025 response.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    I really have no idea what your point is with that
    - mistrial9 1y ago
      it might mean that you are obtusely defending a point of view that ultimately, rationalizes any amount of work for any amount of hours assigned to a helpless cog knowledge worker. "We pay you for that" turns into "you are responsible for that" turns into "do it or you are fired" and "its not done you cant leave until it is done and why did you waste time and why are you failing at this task I gave you" etc..