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VAG cars are weird, I've had both an Audi A1 and a VW Up (short lease for work); they are basically the same car, both had a 3 cylinder, 1 liter engine, similar

VAG cars are weird, I've had both an Audi A1 and a VW Up (short lease for work); they are basically the same car, both had a 3 cylinder, 1 liter engine, similar interiors, etc. But the A1 had the sports look package and generally a fancier feel to it. But VAG uses the same base for a lot of models and brands (VW, Audi, Skoda, SEAT); quality wise there's not much difference between them, but price wise they are, with Skoda being the 'budget' brand and Audi the premium. They also own Porsche but I don't know if they use the same base, I presume not... even though with the amount of Cayennes you see on the road here they sell Porsches at similar rates as upmarket VW / Audi cars.

gmac 1y ago
Yep. I think SEAT are the pick of the VAG brands. Their marketing isn't about being cheap, but they're aimed at the youngest market segment, who also have the least money, so in my experience have the best prices. Pre-COVID we got a new Leon ST — essentially a Golf estate/station wagon — for about a third off the list price: £13K instead of £20K (I know: those prices sound semi-mythical now). On the other end you have Audi, whose premise seems to be: "So you want a VW, but you want to pay hugely over the odds for it? Certainly sir, step right this way."
- leansensei 1y ago
  That's the VAG marketing strategy. Share most parts, have the customer pay for the brand.
  - blitzar 1y ago
    Wait till you hear about the parts on a lamborghini
    - cpursley 1y ago
      What’s funny is the VW parts used in Lambos are actually an improvement over what they used to be.
  - holowoodman 1y ago
    With VAG, at least everyone knows the deal. E.g. Mercedes uses Renault engines in the less-fancy models, but most customers are kept in the dark about that.
Tade0 1y ago
The Cayenne is a Touareg with Porsche bits and special options. Particularly the rear doors of the second gen of both models are interchangeable.

gmac 1y ago

Yep. I think SEAT are the pick of the VAG brands. Their marketing isn't about being cheap, but they're aimed at the youngest market segment, who also have the least money, so in my experience have the best prices. Pre-COVID we got a new Leon ST — essentially a Golf estate/station wagon — for about a third off the list price: £13K instead of £20K (I know: those prices sound semi-mythical now). On the other end you have Audi, whose premise seems to be: "So you want a VW, but you want to pay hugely over the odds for it? Certainly sir, step right this way."

leansensei 1y ago
That's the VAG marketing strategy. Share most parts, have the customer pay for the brand.
- blitzar 1y ago
  Wait till you hear about the parts on a lamborghini
  - cpursley 1y ago
    What’s funny is the VW parts used in Lambos are actually an improvement over what they used to be.
- holowoodman 1y ago
  With VAG, at least everyone knows the deal. E.g. Mercedes uses Renault engines in the less-fancy models, but most customers are kept in the dark about that.

Tade0 1y ago

The Cayenne is a Touareg with Porsche bits and special options. Particularly the rear doors of the second gen of both models are interchangeable.