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Yes, just over 100k is about right. My fresh out of undergrad offer to one of Microsoft's major competitors was almost identical to my colleagues' MS offers. Mi
by adgar 14y ago
Yes, just over 100k is about right. My fresh out of undergrad offer to one of Microsoft's major competitors was almost identical to my colleagues' MS offers. Mine was to a competitor who is also known for offering below-market salaries along with generous benefits.
- joshAg 14y agoso you're saying $100k + benefits is below market for someone who just graduated?
- KirinDave 14y agoAnyone who is saying this is probably wrong, unless the hire getting this rate has very clearly awesome traits that the company really wants to develop. People just out of college almost invariably are really bad at actually releasing products. They've often been shielded from the merciless process of productization of a system. So the first year is almost always going to involve a lot of hand-holding. "Yes, you really have to write tests," and "Yes, you really have to have repeatable deploys," and "Yes, you really have to document this." You know, the important but humdrum part of being a software engineer. Exceptions to this rule; the kids who excel right out of the gate? Cultivate, cheerlead, and rapidly moved up your pay scale. Because invariably kids just out of college are going to work longer hours than most other people; they just don't have much of a life compared to people who've been out of college a few eyars.