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- whall6 1y ago[flagged]
- naikrovek 1y ago[flagged]
- whall6 1y agoHasn’t failed yet!
- naikrovek 1y agoyou are proving my point better than i ever could, so please continue.
- cyanydeez 1y agoThis is the internet. If you haven't learned from the last 10 years, you should have noticed caring _less_ about random people on the internet is healthier than trying to change any and everything, regardless of how smol. You're going to burn out very quickly if this is the level of attention and engagement you desire in the world of the internet.
- naikrovek 1y agoI know what it is. It is a virtual civilization populated by people, the worst species ever known to exist. And it is in this virtual civilization where people reveal their true colors, because there is no punishment for doing so. So here, you see the real identity of humanity. The real people who are underneath the facades of the people you interact with in real life. And it's clear that the people, as they really are, are all despicable and horrible inside. thanks for the pep talk, coach, but you're not my coach and i didn't ask for any coaching. i know what i'm dealing with. i've probably been on the internet longer than you've been alive, so i've watched the internet go from a fairly healthy place to just pile after pile of shit everywhere people interact with each other online. i've watched more and more people show up solely so they can be themselves, and more and more places appear solely for people to be unreastrainable asses to each other.
- whall6 1y agoThat’s interesting because I feel the exact opposite. I know plenty of people that would say something like “smol pp” in real life, but then come to HN and comment like neutered 50 year old wannabe philosophers. There is no humor allowed on this platform; real life is much more colorful and fun.
- naikrovek 1y ago> real life is much more colorful and fun if you think making fun of people is colorful and fun you are again making my point for me better than i ever could. please continue.
- photon_garden 1y agoWoman, actually.
- jojobas 1y ago[flagged]
- tomhow 1y agoReally, please don't.
- KetoManx64 1y ago[flagged]
- Smithalicious 1y agoOur language? Whose language is that, person in the link aggregator comment section of someone else's blog post?
- photon_garden 1y agoEnglish, the language that I personally own and get to make all executive decisions for of course :)
- nancyminusone 1y agoI wouldn't bet on it. A guy in my city has a "SML PP" custom license plate. I'm not sure on the reasoning either.
- photon_garden 1y agoI wouldn’t bet on it either unfortunately. But a girl can dream.
- dankwizard 1y agoNow that would be a big brain play
- Dilettante_ 1y agoHow dare you
- KetoManx64 1y agoNo.
- photon_garden 1y agoAlternatively, yes.
- KetoManx64 1y agoNo. You as a woman have no no say in how men talk to each other. You don't know what it's like to be a man.
- 63 1y agoI found that jarring as well. I'm all for mixing in a jovial, even immature tone to keep technical blog posts interesting but at the very least I'd prefer to keep it non-vulgar.
- keutoi 1y agoThis is a blog post, not a journal. I don't think he should be policing his language in his own work.
- photon_garden 1y agoSounds like we have a difference of opinion here. The large majority of humans adapt our language to the context and the audience every time we open our mouths or put our hands on the keyboard. I’d like the author to do a little more of that.
- keutoi 1y agoThis forum needs a code of conduct. We need to be civil and productive. But I think a blog post should have more freedom. If the author made an ignorant choice of phrase, then a comment about it would be appropriate. But choice of dark/crass humor should not be reprimanded. I don't want to be posh and well mannered in my own home. No masks; let me be as disgusting and pathetic as I can be.
- bigstrat2003 1y agoI would sooner remove posts calling people out for harmless jokes as if they were a moral offense.
- photon_garden 1y agoIt may feel harmless to you, but research consistently shows a large proportion of men feel insecure about their penis size [1]. Let’s assume those studies are off by an order of magnitude and it’s only 1% of men who feel insecure about their penis. In the US, that’s still 1.7 million men. If I had to choose between vulgar jokes and two million people having a better relationship with their bodies, I know where my priorities lie. [1]: https://www.issm.info/sexual-health-qa/what-percentage-of-men-are-satisfied-with-their-penis-size https://www.issm.info/sexual-health-qa/what-percentage-of-me...
- crims0n 1y agoPersonal sites are like the last bastions of free speech on the internet, you really want to censor that because it may offend someone who is voluntarily reading it?
- photon_garden 1y agoI’m not advocating for censorship, just expressing a desire for people to be intentional about their language. Men are routinely shamed for their bodies, especially penis size, and I think it makes their lives worse. So I’d like people to stop doing it.
- tomhow 1y agoPlease don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- photon_garden 1y agoThe psychological wellbeing of ~2 million men in the US feels interesting to me, but sounds like we disagree there.
- tomhow 1y agoThe problem is it doesn't achieve anything to vent about it here. These kinds of complaints are best taken up with the author.
- photon_garden 1y agoAppreciate you engaging on this, and I have sent an email to the author. I personally found that venting about it did achieve something — disagreeing with folks in the comments prompted me to look up concrete numbers on how many men are likely to experience shame around their penis size. I also think it helps nudge social norms towards making that kind of language less acceptable (both here on HN and elsewhere), and in a best case may have prompted some folks to reflect on how they speak and write. Is that speculative benefit worth the conflict it created? I think so — when managed appropriately, conflict is a normal and healthy part of most human relationships. And IMO the wellbeing of ~2 million men is worth stirring the pot a little. But you might disagree and you're the mod, so for better or worse your opinion is the one that matters here.
- tomhow 1y agoI hear you, it's just that the guidelines are there for a reason, which is to optimize discussions for intellectual curiosity. Avoiding generic tangents is an important part of that. We hope we can be the kind of place where people can resist the urge to succumb to either titillation or indignation when an article includes what is clearly intended as a silly joke. We all know what it's like when someone reacts to this kind of thing at a dinner party or in a classroom.