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I'm sick of this kind of twitter stories. This is just a hype about Twitters' internal affairs. Their business. Why on earth this is top news or even on frontpa

by fsniper 14y ago

I'm sick of this kind of twitter stories. This is just a hype about Twitters' internal affairs. Their business. Why on earth this is top news or even on frontpage? They have just skipped showing 2 words. If the story was about "how twitter hypothetically screwed and made 2 man hours work of deleting two words from tweets 2 man days of work" I'd be more willing to read it. Please - this is not about hacking, this is not about technology, this is not even about entrepreneurship - I would really love stories about twitter's opensource projects, twitter's technology choice, twitter's software development methodologies, twitter's devels' thoughts about samsung-apple case. But this is not news worthy. At least not news worthy for Hacker News.

danilocampos 14y ago
Tell ya what I'm sick of. This kind of comment. Why on earth should I care what some anonymous person thinks is newsworthy? You've got a counter right there showing you exactly how many people find it worth reading. If it's interesting, read it and/or comment. If it's not, scroll past. Flag if you want. But the only thing less newsworthy than a given story is your assessment of its newsworthiness.
- fsniper 14y ago
  So why are you not just skipping my comment and wasting your precious time on answering me?
  - netcan 14y ago
    Why are you not just skipping this story and wasting your precious time commenting on it?
- fsniper 14y ago
  Look, there is something wrong about this. This story has 97 point at time of my writing, 44 comments. It's top story. Learning C with gdb story has 297 points, 80 comments and it's on third row.
  - darrenkopp 14y ago
    It's not based solely on points, it's based on points and time.
    - fsniper 14y ago
      Thank you. I know how could it be calculated. Well I did not look into the code but I deducted it. But I was just trying to make a point in the context.
      - ed209 14y ago
        Actually, I'm a HN regular and I find this story interesting. I find it interesting because it's an indication about how Twitter intends to treat developers - a signal that I should worry about about building off other APIs and not the Twitter API.
        EnderMB 14y ago
        > "a signal that I should worry about about building off other APIs and not the Twitter API." Call me crazy, but hasn't this always been the case? Relying on an API out of your control is fine if you're running a website, but if you have a business and you rely on the Twitter's and the Facebook's of the world to keep you going then it's only a matter of time.
        ed209 14y ago
        In the beginning this was not the signal being sent out to developers, so I will call you crazy :) I understand the risks. Hell, I'm even taking them with my own project, but I always hoped if you add value to the API owner and that they created the API to give more value to their users why would they company cut you off? As in all business there are risks. No company have every parameter under control. Building a business off other companies API is one of those risk variables I'm willing to take. However, Twitter is quite clearly telling us that it's not a risk worth taking anymore.
        deleted 14y ago
001sky 14y ago
This is not even about entrepreneurship At some level consider it is? (1) symbolic the evolution of strategy; or (2) its part of a larger narrative on openess vs trusworthiness; or even (3) its might ve PR issue.ETC. Also, its always interesting to look back and put this in context: like this http://dashes.com/anil/2009/12/the-twitter-api-is-finished.html http://dashes.com/anil/2009/12/the-twitter-api-is-finished.h...
- fsniper 14y ago
  Sure. You are right about it. But is it that important?
  - 001sky 14y ago
    You mean, important enough for HN to see it and vote on it?
  - fakeer 14y ago
    Is HN that important for you to follow up religiously? For many it's not. For many it might be. It differs from people to people like almost everything else.
mibbitier 14y ago
> Please - this is not about hacking, this is not about technology, this is not even about entrepreneurship Sorry, but it is. It's a masterclass in how to do a bait and switch. Start out completely open, let open developers build your community, then shut them all off once you don't need them any more.

by fsniper 14y ago

danilocampos 14y ago

Tell ya what I'm sick of. This kind of comment. Why on earth should I care what some anonymous person thinks is newsworthy? You've got a counter right there showing you exactly how many people find it worth reading. If it's interesting, read it and/or comment. If it's not, scroll past. Flag if you want. But the only thing less newsworthy than a given story is your assessment of its newsworthiness.

fsniper 14y ago
So why are you not just skipping my comment and wasting your precious time on answering me?
- netcan 14y ago
  Why are you not just skipping this story and wasting your precious time commenting on it?
fsniper 14y ago
Look, there is something wrong about this. This story has 97 point at time of my writing, 44 comments. It's top story. Learning C with gdb story has 297 points, 80 comments and it's on third row.
- darrenkopp 14y ago
  It's not based solely on points, it's based on points and time.
  - fsniper 14y ago
    Thank you. I know how could it be calculated. Well I did not look into the code but I deducted it. But I was just trying to make a point in the context.
    - ed209 14y ago
      Actually, I'm a HN regular and I find this story interesting. I find it interesting because it's an indication about how Twitter intends to treat developers - a signal that I should worry about about building off other APIs and not the Twitter API.
      - EnderMB 14y ago
        > "a signal that I should worry about about building off other APIs and not the Twitter API." Call me crazy, but hasn't this always been the case? Relying on an API out of your control is fine if you're running a website, but if you have a business and you rely on the Twitter's and the Facebook's of the world to keep you going then it's only a matter of time.
        ed209 14y ago
        In the beginning this was not the signal being sent out to developers, so I will call you crazy :) I understand the risks. Hell, I'm even taking them with my own project, but I always hoped if you add value to the API owner and that they created the API to give more value to their users why would they company cut you off? As in all business there are risks. No company have every parameter under control. Building a business off other companies API is one of those risk variables I'm willing to take. However, Twitter is quite clearly telling us that it's not a risk worth taking anymore.
      - deleted 14y ago

001sky 14y ago

This is not even about entrepreneurship At some level consider it is? (1) symbolic the evolution of strategy; or (2) its part of a larger narrative on openess vs trusworthiness; or even (3) its might ve PR issue.ETC. Also, its always interesting to look back and put this in context: like this http://dashes.com/anil/2009/12/the-twitter-api-is-finished.html http://dashes.com/anil/2009/12/the-twitter-api-is-finished.h...

fsniper 14y ago
Sure. You are right about it. But is it that important?
- 001sky 14y ago
  You mean, important enough for HN to see it and vote on it?
- fakeer 14y ago
  Is HN that important for you to follow up religiously? For many it's not. For many it might be. It differs from people to people like almost everything else.

mibbitier 14y ago

> Please - this is not about hacking, this is not about technology, this is not even about entrepreneurship Sorry, but it is. It's a masterclass in how to do a bait and switch. Start out completely open, let open developers build your community, then shut them all off once you don't need them any more.