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Didn't MSFT also fire the lead engineer for this project shortly after?

pjmlp 1y ago
They did. Also the way the port was sold is a bit misleading, because as described on BUILD 2025 session, they had anyway to redo the whole datastructures due to the more basic Go's type system. Meanwhile Azure is rewriting C++ into Rust with AI tooling, see Microsoft talks at Rust Nation UK 2025.
osigurdson 1y ago
Sorry, who got fired?
- Rexxar 1y ago
  He means probably Ron Buckton: https://xcancel.com/rbuckton/status/1922364558426911039 https://xcancel.com/rbuckton/status/1922364558426911039
foldr 1y ago
Looks like he was laid off, not fired. But so what? Layoffs have their own weird logic. It doesn’t tell us anything about how the project is perceived internally to Microsoft.
- azemetre 1y ago
  No, but it does tell us that MSFT leadership are quite inept if they are firing a clearly qualified engineer capable of doing hard work under the guise of cost savings.
  - foldr 1y ago
    Isn't general MSFT bashing a bit off topic in this thread? Also, it's discourteous to the individual in question to keep incorrectly stating that they were fired. The distinction between being fired and being laid off is an important one (especially if the person in question is applying for jobs).
    - azemetre 1y ago
      Fired and layoffs are a distinction that no worker cares about, I'm sure he'd rather be working than getting laid off for "performance reasons." If you were ever given the option to collect unemployment insurance, this includes taking a severance package where you stipulate to not pursue unemployment insurance, then you were fired. It's also important to always note that these companies do not care about their workers, they will extract you dry and throw you out.
      - foldr 1y ago
        It’s an important distinction because being fired suggests a fault on the part of the employee. Despite what you appear to suggest, there is no public information suggesting that this person was laid off for performance related reasons. Again, what you think about Microsoft, or big tech companies in general, is completely irrelevant here. You’re spreading false information about someone. It would cost you nothing simply to stop doing it.

They did. Also the way the port was sold is a bit misleading, because as described on BUILD 2025 session, they had anyway to redo the whole datastructures due to the more basic Go's type system. Meanwhile Azure is rewriting C++ into Rust with AI tooling, see Microsoft talks at Rust Nation UK 2025.

osigurdson 1y ago

Sorry, who got fired?

Rexxar 1y ago
He means probably Ron Buckton: https://xcancel.com/rbuckton/status/1922364558426911039 https://xcancel.com/rbuckton/status/1922364558426911039

foldr 1y ago

Looks like he was laid off, not fired. But so what? Layoffs have their own weird logic. It doesn’t tell us anything about how the project is perceived internally to Microsoft.

azemetre 1y ago
No, but it does tell us that MSFT leadership are quite inept if they are firing a clearly qualified engineer capable of doing hard work under the guise of cost savings.
- foldr 1y ago
  Isn't general MSFT bashing a bit off topic in this thread? Also, it's discourteous to the individual in question to keep incorrectly stating that they were fired. The distinction between being fired and being laid off is an important one (especially if the person in question is applying for jobs).
  - azemetre 1y ago
    Fired and layoffs are a distinction that no worker cares about, I'm sure he'd rather be working than getting laid off for "performance reasons." If you were ever given the option to collect unemployment insurance, this includes taking a severance package where you stipulate to not pursue unemployment insurance, then you were fired. It's also important to always note that these companies do not care about their workers, they will extract you dry and throw you out.
    - foldr 1y ago
      It’s an important distinction because being fired suggests a fault on the part of the employee. Despite what you appear to suggest, there is no public information suggesting that this person was laid off for performance related reasons. Again, what you think about Microsoft, or big tech companies in general, is completely irrelevant here. You’re spreading false information about someone. It would cost you nothing simply to stop doing it.