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They could claim that even with the satellites. The "alternate reality" can be anything - if facts aren't inserted into it the people inside won't know.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
Idiots will buy it. The courts won’t. Cutting off the data stymies the latter.
- pstuart 1y ago
  The courts are compelled to defer to SCOTUS, which has demonstrated that it is ideologically aligned with the regime.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > SCOTUS, which has demonstrated that it is ideologically aligned with the regime If you read SCOTUS's opinions this is obviously false. Alito and Thomas are bought. But the others have their own quirks and agendas.
    - tialaramex 1y ago
      You could probably imagine that ACB is just very stupid I guess? She's made choices which only make sense if they're out of blind loyalty to the man who gave her a job she shouldn't have or because she's not smart enough to understand the consequences. For ordinary people it can feel reasonable to keep your head down and hope that somehow this blows over. But for SCOTUS it's entirely within their power to draw a line, and it seems like at best their idea has become "Maybe if we give him what he wants he'll go away?" which is dumb, Kipling wrote his famous poem "Dane-geld" about this, it's well over a century old and it's about a mistake England (or rather one of its Kings) made last millennium (when he wrote it, ie now over 1000 years ago).
      - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > could probably imagine that ACB is just very stupid I guess? She's made choices which only make sense if they're out of blind loyalty to the man who gave her a job Barrett has sided with the liberals on various decisions. SCOTUS has a problem. But its problem isn't blind loyalty to Trump. It's that there is a deeper conviction about the way the world should work that sometimes aligns with Trump in ways that are deeply damaging to our society. If you want to see a judge who's blindly deferential to Trump, that's Aileen Cannon.
        KerrAvon 1y ago
        SCOTUS is essentially blindly local to Trump — pay attention to the latest Constitution-shredding decisions; they sure wouldn’t be doing those under a Dem president, and they’re twisting themselves in knots trying to make the illogical logical — it just manifests differently at their level.
        pstuart 1y ago
        This is clear to all except partisans who put loyalty to their party over their country. It's not like we're asking for SCOTUS to accept constitutional slights from the left side of the aisle, its about consistency of reasoning regardless of which party is involved. As you've noted, the conservatives of SCOTUS are working backwards from their desired goals rather than pursuing justice for all.
        ryandrake 1y ago
        The ultimate test will be if any future Democrat president (assuming we have fair elections after 2025) is able to use the same powers, justified by the same rulings. I think most people believe that SCOTUS will do a 180 turn and come to entirely opposite legal/Constitutional conclusions if a Dem president tries to argue the same things in front of them.
        adgjlsfhk1 1y ago
  - zeristor 1y ago
    Regime indeed

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

Idiots will buy it. The courts won’t. Cutting off the data stymies the latter.

pstuart 1y ago
The courts are compelled to defer to SCOTUS, which has demonstrated that it is ideologically aligned with the regime.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > SCOTUS, which has demonstrated that it is ideologically aligned with the regime If you read SCOTUS's opinions this is obviously false. Alito and Thomas are bought. But the others have their own quirks and agendas.
  - tialaramex 1y ago
    You could probably imagine that ACB is just very stupid I guess? She's made choices which only make sense if they're out of blind loyalty to the man who gave her a job she shouldn't have or because she's not smart enough to understand the consequences. For ordinary people it can feel reasonable to keep your head down and hope that somehow this blows over. But for SCOTUS it's entirely within their power to draw a line, and it seems like at best their idea has become "Maybe if we give him what he wants he'll go away?" which is dumb, Kipling wrote his famous poem "Dane-geld" about this, it's well over a century old and it's about a mistake England (or rather one of its Kings) made last millennium (when he wrote it, ie now over 1000 years ago).
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > could probably imagine that ACB is just very stupid I guess? She's made choices which only make sense if they're out of blind loyalty to the man who gave her a job Barrett has sided with the liberals on various decisions. SCOTUS has a problem. But its problem isn't blind loyalty to Trump. It's that there is a deeper conviction about the way the world should work that sometimes aligns with Trump in ways that are deeply damaging to our society. If you want to see a judge who's blindly deferential to Trump, that's Aileen Cannon.
      - KerrAvon 1y ago
        SCOTUS is essentially blindly local to Trump — pay attention to the latest Constitution-shredding decisions; they sure wouldn’t be doing those under a Dem president, and they’re twisting themselves in knots trying to make the illogical logical — it just manifests differently at their level.
        pstuart 1y ago
        This is clear to all except partisans who put loyalty to their party over their country. It's not like we're asking for SCOTUS to accept constitutional slights from the left side of the aisle, its about consistency of reasoning regardless of which party is involved. As you've noted, the conservatives of SCOTUS are working backwards from their desired goals rather than pursuing justice for all.
        ryandrake 1y ago
        The ultimate test will be if any future Democrat president (assuming we have fair elections after 2025) is able to use the same powers, justified by the same rulings. I think most people believe that SCOTUS will do a 180 turn and come to entirely opposite legal/Constitutional conclusions if a Dem president tries to argue the same things in front of them.
        adgjlsfhk1 1y ago
- zeristor 1y ago
  Regime indeed