> "counting calories is just painful. Have you ever really tried to do this?" Yes. It is (or at least was) the core mechanic of Weight Watchers (converted to

> "counting calories is just painful. Have you ever really tried to do this?" Yes. It is (or at least was) the core mechanic of Weight Watchers (converted to a "points" scale), and it worked pretty damn well. For me, it was a pain for about 2 weeks. By then, I'd figured out all of my common food items, and how to cook dishes with reduced calories but that were still plenty filling. As a result, I now know how to structure my diet to get the same benefits without actually having to count.