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There's a Firefox extension (also available for Chrome) that turns off automatic translations and dubbing [1] Moments like these really make me appreciate the

by phlsa 1y ago

There's a Firefox extension (also available for Chrome) that turns off automatic translations and dubbing [1] Moments like these really make me appreciate the customizability of the web experience for advanced users. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/youtube-no-translation/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/youtube-no-tr...

_Algernon_ 1y ago
So at this point, to use YT you need: - Ublock origin. - Sponsorblock. - DeArrow. - Youtube no translation At what point do we collectively decide to no longer patch over enshittified bullshit?
- danillonunes 1y ago
  I also use an extension to stop automatically playing a video when I open it and another to stop automatically opening the next recommended video when the current one ends.
  - _Algernon_ 1y ago
    Auto play should be configurable in the browser. In Firefox: Settings->Search "permissions". Autoplay is one of the options and can be controlled on a per-site basis (I have it disabled globally).
    - nozzlegear 1y ago
      I have autoplay turned off in Safari, but the esteemed minds at YouTube have somehow found a way to circumvent that setting. Like the person you're replying to, I had to resort to an extension to get the site to stop auto playing videos.
- doener 1y ago
  It would be great if companies content creators ag least used PeerTube additionally.
- fastball 1y ago
  I pay for YouTube premium, and my experience is fairly smooth.
  - nemomarx 1y ago
    Is there a premium option to turn off the auto dubbing? It's incredibly jarring to hear a computer voice instead of a YouTubers Also are you just skipping sponsor breaks manually? I use premium but it only covers adblocking really.
    - fastball 1y ago
      Sponsor breaks? Like creators having sponsored portions of videos? Yeah that is still there and obviously YT has no control over that.
  - elboru 1y ago
    Premium users still get auto dubs, still cannot completely disable auto play, still cannot completely hide Shorts. It’s amazing how UX hostile companies can get when they don’t have real competition.
    - fastball 1y ago
      My YouTube does not auto-play, so not sure what you mean by that. Also the ability to "hide shorts" isn't a feature I'd expect from any other web platform out-of-the-box, so definitely didn't expect to get it with my Premium subscription. Wrt auto-dubs, they can be turned off. To me this feels less deliberately hostile on YT's part and more tunnel vision where they assumed everyone would find this to be a helpful feature and didn't even think about adding a user-level preference to disable it. But also I find user-level preferences kinda an anti-pattern anyway. Would be nice if you disable it for one video and it just remembers that preference for the next one (or vice versa).
      - _Algernon_ 1y ago
        Auto play as in the video starts playing immediately when you load the page, not auto play as in automatically play the next video. Only the latter is configurable by the user. YT even circumvents the browser's own auto play configuration, as pointed out elsewhere in this thread.
- out-of-ideas 1y ago
  we need a yt deshitter for (maybe one exists?): when mousing over the seek-bar, the time displayed goes from the time where im hovering over, to a huge-chunk of the bar displaying 'most replayed' in several areas (not just one, which "most" implies)
- cmcaleer 1y ago
  Network effects are incredibly difficult to overcome. Bluesky is the only example that I can think of that came close in recent memory, but fell victim to an extreme userbase and now is experiencing degrowth. Similar things happened to all the (many) times someone tried to create reddit without the reddit. I guess Kick is an example, but that's not exactly a model to follow unless you're also a questionably ethical casino with deep pockets who wants to be able to advertise to young men. YouTube has to become truly awful for a new long-form video content platform to gain a lot of traction. Think of how long Windows has been enshittifying for and how slow the move from it has been.

by phlsa 1y ago

_Algernon_ 1y ago

So at this point, to use YT you need: - Ublock origin. - Sponsorblock. - DeArrow. - Youtube no translation At what point do we collectively decide to no longer patch over enshittified bullshit?

danillonunes 1y ago
I also use an extension to stop automatically playing a video when I open it and another to stop automatically opening the next recommended video when the current one ends.
- _Algernon_ 1y ago
  Auto play should be configurable in the browser. In Firefox: Settings->Search "permissions". Autoplay is one of the options and can be controlled on a per-site basis (I have it disabled globally).
  - nozzlegear 1y ago
    I have autoplay turned off in Safari, but the esteemed minds at YouTube have somehow found a way to circumvent that setting. Like the person you're replying to, I had to resort to an extension to get the site to stop auto playing videos.
doener 1y ago
It would be great if companies content creators ag least used PeerTube additionally.
fastball 1y ago
I pay for YouTube premium, and my experience is fairly smooth.
- nemomarx 1y ago
  Is there a premium option to turn off the auto dubbing? It's incredibly jarring to hear a computer voice instead of a YouTubers Also are you just skipping sponsor breaks manually? I use premium but it only covers adblocking really.
  - fastball 1y ago
    Sponsor breaks? Like creators having sponsored portions of videos? Yeah that is still there and obviously YT has no control over that.
- elboru 1y ago
  Premium users still get auto dubs, still cannot completely disable auto play, still cannot completely hide Shorts. It’s amazing how UX hostile companies can get when they don’t have real competition.
  - fastball 1y ago
    My YouTube does not auto-play, so not sure what you mean by that. Also the ability to "hide shorts" isn't a feature I'd expect from any other web platform out-of-the-box, so definitely didn't expect to get it with my Premium subscription. Wrt auto-dubs, they can be turned off. To me this feels less deliberately hostile on YT's part and more tunnel vision where they assumed everyone would find this to be a helpful feature and didn't even think about adding a user-level preference to disable it. But also I find user-level preferences kinda an anti-pattern anyway. Would be nice if you disable it for one video and it just remembers that preference for the next one (or vice versa).
    - _Algernon_ 1y ago
      Auto play as in the video starts playing immediately when you load the page, not auto play as in automatically play the next video. Only the latter is configurable by the user. YT even circumvents the browser's own auto play configuration, as pointed out elsewhere in this thread.
out-of-ideas 1y ago
we need a yt deshitter for (maybe one exists?): when mousing over the seek-bar, the time displayed goes from the time where im hovering over, to a huge-chunk of the bar displaying 'most replayed' in several areas (not just one, which "most" implies)
cmcaleer 1y ago
Network effects are incredibly difficult to overcome. Bluesky is the only example that I can think of that came close in recent memory, but fell victim to an extreme userbase and now is experiencing degrowth. Similar things happened to all the (many) times someone tried to create reddit without the reddit. I guess Kick is an example, but that's not exactly a model to follow unless you're also a questionably ethical casino with deep pockets who wants to be able to advertise to young men. YouTube has to become truly awful for a new long-form video content platform to gain a lot of traction. Think of how long Windows has been enshittifying for and how slow the move from it has been.