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I’m fairly sure my expensive ASUS ROG motherboard (ergo: not even their budget line) also had a “to be filled in by OEM” string that I couldn’t even override. (

I’m fairly sure my expensive ASUS ROG motherboard (ergo: not even their budget line) also had a “to be filled in by OEM” string that I couldn’t even override. (ASUS have a utility but it’s not publicly available, probably just for computer shops)

gruez 1y ago
That's basically my experience for 2 other "gaming" motherboard brands that aren't ASUS as well. My guess is that people who build their own PCs probably don't care about SMBIOS serial numbers being properly populated, so why bother?
- smileybarry 1y ago
  I would care if I could change it, but you need a proprietary tool that you can't obtain. (Every other way I found involved patching the UEFI and turning off Secure Boot)
iforgotpassword 1y ago
But that's exactly the point. Computer shops that sell complete systems are supposed to put their name in the "system manufacturer" field. If you bought the mainboard yourself and built your own system, then who do you think should have replaced that string?
- smileybarry 1y ago
  I get that, but I'd expect it to be a setting I can change in BIOS, or at least default to the motherboard's model number. Instead, if I build my own, I just can't change it ever because ASUS refuse to release it publicly. Hell, even the shop I used for the previous PC didn't have such a tool. (And if you change it in Windows, it's rewritten from SMBIOS every boot)
  - theshackleford 1y ago
    I worked in PC stores for a long time and never had any such access to such a tool. Sounds like something only the big OEM's would get honestly.
    - smileybarry 1y ago
      It's mentioned in some ASUS docs, but it's not available on their support anywhere. Probably reserved for big OEMs, yeah.
      - iforgotpassword 1y ago
        I stumbled upon that feature in the (MS-DOS based) bios flashing utility for some mainboard, via some command line option. Just don't remember which one it was, it was ages ago.
- mrheosuper 1y ago
  How about set it to default "Asus", and computer shop has tool to override it
  - iforgotpassword 1y ago
    Then you can't tell it apart from systems that were actually built by Asus. But given that most smaller shops don't seem to have access to the tool anyways, we'd then just have the opposite situation.
- thesuitonym 1y ago
  Okay but we're talking about consumer-grade boards sold at retail here. It's not like these are boards that fell off a truck. ASUS sells them this way, but then doesn't give consumers a way to alter that field.
dragonwriter 1y ago
If you buy a motherboard to build your own (or any, even if it is for someone else) PC, you are the OEM.
mananaysiempre 1y ago
Need I remind you of the ASUS Zenbook UX21 from 2011, almost the first machine to be branded an “Ultrabook”, that experienced sudden shutdowns under Linux (but not Windows) because its ACPI firmware scribbled over random places of I/O space in an attempt to initialize a SATA controller the SSD-based machine did not physically have? (Can’t find the link now, sorry.)

gruez 1y ago

That's basically my experience for 2 other "gaming" motherboard brands that aren't ASUS as well. My guess is that people who build their own PCs probably don't care about SMBIOS serial numbers being properly populated, so why bother?

smileybarry 1y ago
I would care if I could change it, but you need a proprietary tool that you can't obtain. (Every other way I found involved patching the UEFI and turning off Secure Boot)

iforgotpassword 1y ago

But that's exactly the point. Computer shops that sell complete systems are supposed to put their name in the "system manufacturer" field. If you bought the mainboard yourself and built your own system, then who do you think should have replaced that string?

smileybarry 1y ago
I get that, but I'd expect it to be a setting I can change in BIOS, or at least default to the motherboard's model number. Instead, if I build my own, I just can't change it ever because ASUS refuse to release it publicly. Hell, even the shop I used for the previous PC didn't have such a tool. (And if you change it in Windows, it's rewritten from SMBIOS every boot)
- theshackleford 1y ago
  I worked in PC stores for a long time and never had any such access to such a tool. Sounds like something only the big OEM's would get honestly.
  - smileybarry 1y ago
    It's mentioned in some ASUS docs, but it's not available on their support anywhere. Probably reserved for big OEMs, yeah.
    - iforgotpassword 1y ago
      I stumbled upon that feature in the (MS-DOS based) bios flashing utility for some mainboard, via some command line option. Just don't remember which one it was, it was ages ago.
mrheosuper 1y ago
How about set it to default "Asus", and computer shop has tool to override it
- iforgotpassword 1y ago
  Then you can't tell it apart from systems that were actually built by Asus. But given that most smaller shops don't seem to have access to the tool anyways, we'd then just have the opposite situation.
thesuitonym 1y ago
Okay but we're talking about consumer-grade boards sold at retail here. It's not like these are boards that fell off a truck. ASUS sells them this way, but then doesn't give consumers a way to alter that field.

dragonwriter 1y ago

If you buy a motherboard to build your own (or any, even if it is for someone else) PC, you are the OEM.

mananaysiempre 1y ago

Need I remind you of the ASUS Zenbook UX21 from 2011, almost the first machine to be branded an “Ultrabook”, that experienced sudden shutdowns under Linux (but not Windows) because its ACPI firmware scribbled over random places of I/O space in an attempt to initialize a SATA controller the SSD-based machine did not physically have? (Can’t find the link now, sorry.)