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First, what you're describing is not consistent with the definition of serial killer [1]. Second, even if we include governmental killings, it's not clear how
by hackyhacky 1y ago
First, what you're describing is not consistent with the definition of serial killer [1].
Second, even if we include governmental killings, it's not clear how to allocate blame. For example, how many people are responsible for the Holodomor [2]? Just Joseph Stalin himself? His deputies? Every employee of the Russian government? If we consider each instance of state-sanctioned murder as ultimately being ordered by the head of state, that would not greatly increase the number of murderers, and certainly not in comparison to the daily count of civilian-on-civilian murder in the US.
Third, if we are going to include governmental killings, we should definitely include the various illegal wars that the US has engaged in, and continues to engage in. I think that would nicely balance the tables. It's important to understand that fascism and Communism do not hold a monopoly on civilian deaths [3] [4] [5]. Let's also not forget the US's continued use of the death penalty.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freedom_Deal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freedom_Deal
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- ltbarcly3 1y agoI agree, except you don't understand my point. Europe has just a TON of sanctioned sadomasochistic sex-related murder crimes. Just a ton. Before Jews were stuffed into ovens many were forced to perform sex acts on their guards. So many that it was formally organized and done in the open. Exactly the sort of thing that a serial killer does. So if you're a serial killer in Germany, or Russia, or Eastern Europe, or Yugoslavia you just get a job with the secret police, and engage in your sadomasochistic rape and murder without worrying about the police finding out because you are the police. If you are a serial killer in Western Europe you might have to go to Algeria or Vietnam if you are French, or India or Africa if you are British, etc etc, plenty of places where serial killer behavior would just be ignored or encouraged. You can't even find statistics on how often this happened because nobody cared enough to keep records of it because human life was so cheap it's not worth the paper.
- SideburnsOfDoom 1y agoCitation needed that this is a "Europe" issue only, so as not to have a double standard. Look at current news from the USA law enforcement if you still think that.
- ltbarcly3 1y agoAre you saying that thr industrialized rape and murder of millions of people is morally equivalent to deporting people? Inside your head, is it just a limp piece of cabbage?
- SideburnsOfDoom 1y agoHacker news Guidelines are here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I think that you're breaking several, but the closest one to "no personal insults" is "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names." There is no further reason to pay any attention to your arguments.
- ltbarcly3 1y agoYour "argument" was "look at the news". I stand by what I said.
- SideburnsOfDoom 1y agoIt is being explained to you why your posts are being flagged. If you do not want to understand, that is on you.
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- Spooky23 1y agoThis is one of the most ridiculous, pedantic bike shedding discussions ever. If you’re making this absurd argument, the Germans are minor leagues on a per capita basis. Julius Caesar was responsible for the death or enslavement of 2% of human population.