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My understanding is it's the AI demand and willingness to pay crazy money for wafer that makes consumer GPUs a significantly less attractive product to produce.

My understanding is it's the AI demand and willingness to pay crazy money for wafer that makes consumer GPUs a significantly less attractive product to produce. I don't have really solid evidence, just semi-anecdotal/semi-reliable internet posts: Eg. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/more-than-251-million-gpus-shipped-in-2024-according-to-new-research https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/more-than-251-mil... Nvidia as a whole has been fairly anti-consumer recently with pricing, so I wouldn't be banking on them for a great cpu option. Weirdly Intel is in the position where they have to prove themselves, so hopefully they'll give us some great products in the next 2-5 years - if they survive (think the old lead-up-to-ryzen era for amd)

KronisLV 1y ago
> Nvidia as a whole has been fairly anti-consumer recently with pricing, so I wouldn't be banking on them for a great cpu option. If they’re swimming in the AI cash and the consumer GPU segment isn’t that important (https://www.visualcapitalist.com/nvidia-revenue-by-product-line/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/nvidia-revenue-by-product-l...) then why on earth couldn’t they do less price gouging? It feels a bit like the Intel Core Ultra desktop CPU launch where the prices were the critical factor that doomed an otherwise pretty okay product. At least Intel's excuse is that they’re closer to going under than before, even if their GPUs were pretty fairly priced anyways. It’s almost like everyone complains about their prices and the fact that they’re releasing 8 GB cards… and then still go and give them money anyways.
p_l 1y ago
The same chip as the "proper"[1] 5090 is also used for workstation and some server cards, which go for easy higher price. So it's just an allocation of child to different products, taking into account that with the power demands and design issues in 5090s power supply there isn't all that much demand for 5090 either. [1] there are now 5090 branded cards that use same chip as 5080

KronisLV 1y ago

> Nvidia as a whole has been fairly anti-consumer recently with pricing, so I wouldn't be banking on them for a great cpu option. If they’re swimming in the AI cash and the consumer GPU segment isn’t that important (https://www.visualcapitalist.com/nvidia-revenue-by-product-line/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/nvidia-revenue-by-product-l...) then why on earth couldn’t they do less price gouging? It feels a bit like the Intel Core Ultra desktop CPU launch where the prices were the critical factor that doomed an otherwise pretty okay product. At least Intel's excuse is that they’re closer to going under than before, even if their GPUs were pretty fairly priced anyways. It’s almost like everyone complains about their prices and the fact that they’re releasing 8 GB cards… and then still go and give them money anyways.

p_l 1y ago

The same chip as the "proper"[1] 5090 is also used for workstation and some server cards, which go for easy higher price. So it's just an allocation of child to different products, taking into account that with the power demands and design issues in 5090s power supply there isn't all that much demand for 5090 either. [1] there are now 5090 branded cards that use same chip as 5080