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My brain is so rotted from the news that I can’t read this and not think it’s some sort of bee racism. Is this related to averting nationwide colony collapse? S

by 55555 1y ago

My brain is so rotted from the news that I can’t read this and not think it’s some sort of bee racism. Is this related to averting nationwide colony collapse? Seems like government overreach to my uninformed self.

durkie 1y ago
There are bee diseases that are so serious (American foulbrood) that if your hive gets it then the dept of agriculture will come out and not leave until you burn the affected hives. It is super infectious and can cause massive commercial damage if allowed to spread.
- femto 1y ago
  > and not leave until you burn the affected hives I've got visions of bee inspectors standing there, insisting that this woman burn her house down.
- drewnoakes 1y ago
  Where I live, AFB is a reportable infection, requiring burn and bury. Bees are considered livestock and subject to state regulations.
cryptonector 1y ago
It's state control for the sake of control. Beekeepers have varroa under control. But the state loves to be able to declare medical emergencies for animals (cull all the chickens!!), including beehives.
- ikr678 1y ago
  It's not control for the sake of control, it's control for the sake of agricultural economy. Orange production in florida is on the way out, thanks to citrus greening from an introduced pest.
  - cryptonector 1y ago
    It is control for control's sake. Honeybees are doing fine except for the ones that are driven around to provide fertilization services -- those bees are exposed to very high pesticide doses and -surprise!- have high loss rates. (The same is true for non-mobile beehives in areas that have high pesticide loads.) Most problems with beehives are down to old brood comb not getting managed out. Feral bees don't have that problem because they swarm and build a new hive when their old one gets small, and they'll leave altogether (not just split) when the brood comb gets old. It's all bad management, but God forbid you have a beekeeping hobby, no, you must get inspected and the state apiarist gets to come on your property w/o a warrant and they can burn your hives.
giantg2 1y ago
The main reason for inspection laws is to control American Foul Brood. It's very destructive and since bees travel miles, it can spread similar to a public health outbreak. Africanized bees are only a concern in some area, but can be a threat to human life. The fact that Delaware wants to inspect for them does seem to be overreach as their range seems to be stalled much further west for unknown reasons. The inclusion of mite inspections seems like overreach as there are no therapies to completely eliminate them and they are already in every hive.

by 55555 1y ago

durkie 1y ago

There are bee diseases that are so serious (American foulbrood) that if your hive gets it then the dept of agriculture will come out and not leave until you burn the affected hives. It is super infectious and can cause massive commercial damage if allowed to spread.

femto 1y ago
> and not leave until you burn the affected hives I've got visions of bee inspectors standing there, insisting that this woman burn her house down.
drewnoakes 1y ago
Where I live, AFB is a reportable infection, requiring burn and bury. Bees are considered livestock and subject to state regulations.

cryptonector 1y ago

It's state control for the sake of control. Beekeepers have varroa under control. But the state loves to be able to declare medical emergencies for animals (cull all the chickens!!), including beehives.

ikr678 1y ago
It's not control for the sake of control, it's control for the sake of agricultural economy. Orange production in florida is on the way out, thanks to citrus greening from an introduced pest.
- cryptonector 1y ago
  It is control for control's sake. Honeybees are doing fine except for the ones that are driven around to provide fertilization services -- those bees are exposed to very high pesticide doses and -surprise!- have high loss rates. (The same is true for non-mobile beehives in areas that have high pesticide loads.) Most problems with beehives are down to old brood comb not getting managed out. Feral bees don't have that problem because they swarm and build a new hive when their old one gets small, and they'll leave altogether (not just split) when the brood comb gets old. It's all bad management, but God forbid you have a beekeeping hobby, no, you must get inspected and the state apiarist gets to come on your property w/o a warrant and they can burn your hives.

giantg2 1y ago

The main reason for inspection laws is to control American Foul Brood. It's very destructive and since bees travel miles, it can spread similar to a public health outbreak. Africanized bees are only a concern in some area, but can be a threat to human life. The fact that Delaware wants to inspect for them does seem to be overreach as their range seems to be stalled much further west for unknown reasons. The inclusion of mite inspections seems like overreach as there are no therapies to completely eliminate them and they are already in every hive.