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I remember booting my Performa to BeOS and being amazed how different the same hardware felt. No kidding. It took until the M1 to make macOS feel anything clos

I remember booting my Performa to BeOS and being amazed how different the same hardware felt. No kidding. It took until the M1 to make macOS feel anything close to the responsiveness of BeOS on a 150MHz PowerPC.

ksec 1y ago
While M1 - M4 are fast. I still think macOS is relatively slow in terms of responsiveness / latency compared to BeOS even with M series. This probably go back to Early Windows or DOS where everything feels instantaneous.
- leakycap 1y ago
  I agree & still use a PowerBook running actual OS 9 as my "second brain" Nothing else is as fast, I don't get slowed down by it Even cursor movement on modern macOS is slow
- loloquwowndueo 1y ago
  Windows, instantaneous? Haha. I never used anything older than 3.0 but unless you mean those older versions indeed, nope - it never felt anything even close to “instantaneous”. (Unless you’re talking about how frequently it crashes).
  - Retric 1y ago
    Pre USB peripherals + CRT monitors could have really low input latency by modern standards. Windows would chug from all sorts of issues, but some things did feel instantaneous.
  - anthk 1y ago
    Loading was slow indeed, even with DMA bound IDE drivers. But once they were in RAM, the latency from a PS2 input was almost nil, as if you were using a kitchen appliance.
    - leakycap 1y ago
      Same with ADB. I've yet to feel a USB mouse feel as connected as the old ADB mouses did.
WillAdams 1y ago
The enraging thing is NeXTstep ran acceptably on a 25MHz 68040 (and okay on the 68030 --- the lucky folks had 33MHz "Turbo" '040 boards) --- the performance Rhapsody promised was amazing, but Adobe reneged on a free license of Display PostScript, and Apple spent 10 years recreating that as Quartz (née Display PDF) --- the transparency and drop shadows are nice, but I'd rather have the performance.
- leakycap 1y ago
  Yes, Mac OS X not only looked like Kai's Photo Goo when it came out, it felt about as responsive. I had a B&W '030 NeXTStation and it took 5+ minutes to boot and a long time to launch apps, I wish I'd had a turbo!
  - WillAdams 1y ago
    At that time, I was using similar performance hardware running Windows (a ThinkPad 755c), Mac OS (a Mac w/ a 68040 processor at my workplace --- can't recall which, I was eventually upgraded to a 9500/180MP), and my NeXT Cube (68040 25MHz) --- the Cube was the most reliable and nicest of them all.

ksec 1y ago

While M1 - M4 are fast. I still think macOS is relatively slow in terms of responsiveness / latency compared to BeOS even with M series. This probably go back to Early Windows or DOS where everything feels instantaneous.

leakycap 1y ago
I agree & still use a PowerBook running actual OS 9 as my "second brain" Nothing else is as fast, I don't get slowed down by it Even cursor movement on modern macOS is slow
loloquwowndueo 1y ago
Windows, instantaneous? Haha. I never used anything older than 3.0 but unless you mean those older versions indeed, nope - it never felt anything even close to “instantaneous”. (Unless you’re talking about how frequently it crashes).
- Retric 1y ago
  Pre USB peripherals + CRT monitors could have really low input latency by modern standards. Windows would chug from all sorts of issues, but some things did feel instantaneous.
- anthk 1y ago
  Loading was slow indeed, even with DMA bound IDE drivers. But once they were in RAM, the latency from a PS2 input was almost nil, as if you were using a kitchen appliance.
  - leakycap 1y ago
    Same with ADB. I've yet to feel a USB mouse feel as connected as the old ADB mouses did.

WillAdams 1y ago

The enraging thing is NeXTstep ran acceptably on a 25MHz 68040 (and okay on the 68030 --- the lucky folks had 33MHz "Turbo" '040 boards) --- the performance Rhapsody promised was amazing, but Adobe reneged on a free license of Display PostScript, and Apple spent 10 years recreating that as Quartz (née Display PDF) --- the transparency and drop shadows are nice, but I'd rather have the performance.

leakycap 1y ago
Yes, Mac OS X not only looked like Kai's Photo Goo when it came out, it felt about as responsive. I had a B&W '030 NeXTStation and it took 5+ minutes to boot and a long time to launch apps, I wish I'd had a turbo!
- WillAdams 1y ago
  At that time, I was using similar performance hardware running Windows (a ThinkPad 755c), Mac OS (a Mac w/ a 68040 processor at my workplace --- can't recall which, I was eventually upgraded to a 9500/180MP), and my NeXT Cube (68040 25MHz) --- the Cube was the most reliable and nicest of them all.