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> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base

by eviks 1y ago

> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base). While Windows 10 is still running on the majority of Windows PCs worldwide (about 53 percent, according to Statcounter's May 2025 data) 53% is huge mere months away from the end, and actually means that the efforts have resoundingly failed.

NegativeK 1y ago
If your org has a fiscal year that begins in the middle of the calendar year (July 1), there might not have been the budget to do the upgrade until months away. Compounded with general upgrade procrastination...
makeitdouble 1y ago
You might be seeing it in the same lens as macos for instance, but windows' model is fundamentaly different and that deadline is only for specific cases (that's why they can play the "sign up for backup and we'll expand your time" game) For instance Enterprise LTSC version of Windows 10 is officially supported until 2031. A ton of the devices inside these 53% have no need to move away from win 10 in any urgent way.
- eviks 1y ago
  I'm seeing it in the lens of the stated goal mentioned in the article "Microsoft is still sticking to its guns in promoting Windows 11 upgrades"
  - makeitdouble 1y ago
    Thanks. To that point, they still have years to reach that goal, we'll see in a decade if they utterly failed.
- coolspot 1y ago
  I am running Enterprise LTSC version of Windows 10 in a VM for .NET development and it started to show full-screen popups saying that “it’s time to upgrade” to win11 with some text suggesting that it is urgent and time is running out.
  - makeitdouble 1y ago
    That's such a Microsoft move. Corporate users under managed machines will never see that popup so it won't be an issue, so it's mainly heckling the users that probably installed Windows themselves or have a direct access to the someone who can perform the update. On OS updates I'm willing to give them a pass, but that kind of split and "foot in the door" pushiness is so typical.
airstrike 1y ago
In order to make that claim you'd need to compare it with rates in past upgrade cycles to see if it's worse or better.
- speedgoose 1y ago
  I am not sure. The world is different. Perhaps Windows 11 is doing better than Windows Vista or Windows Me, but does it matter?
Xelbair 1y ago
anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11. 53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.
- eviks 1y ago
  Interesting, how many of your friends stuck with Linux after trying out?
  - throwcarsales 1y ago
    Just one data point, but I have gone full Linux Mint on almost all my computers. Being a MS guy since 1991 at 7 years old. Remember being in aw at windows 95 at 11-12. Avoided apples my whole life. Seeing how much better my friends apple computers ran than my modern windows computers, I just went full Linux. Loving it. Telling my parents and friends to consider it instead of buying a new computer to replace the 'slow one'.
    - hypercube33 1y ago
      I have one laptop I got used to be able to daily drive Linux and for now am on Zorin Pro. A lot of people don't like paying for support, or Linux, and v17 definitely has some problems but so far I'm impressed how well it runs win32 stuff out of the box and looks great. Support is pretty awesome so far too. Also yeah, I could do without paying just fine and work as basically a Windows engineer so I can Google stuff but I'm just over trying to deal with getting Linux working. I do also have a steam deck and gaming is stellar on Proton but you still need Windows for DRM triple a games.
      - throwcarsales 1y ago
        If you put your Linux questions into any decent AI it basically always solves your problems. Or atleast it did for my beginner tier issues I guess.
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d0100 1y ago
I'm still on a i7 4770k, waiting for non-bugged intel CPU's to launch, and upgrading to Win11 always fails
- mslansn 1y ago
  Intel cpu manufacturing issues were solved like a year ago.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  >waiting for non-bugged intel CPU's to launch What?!
  - Eavolution 1y ago
    I'm assuming they're talking about spectre/meltdown which have mitigations slowing down performance, but the hardware is vulnerable without those mitigations

by eviks 1y ago

NegativeK 1y ago

If your org has a fiscal year that begins in the middle of the calendar year (July 1), there might not have been the budget to do the upgrade until months away. Compounded with general upgrade procrastination...

makeitdouble 1y ago

You might be seeing it in the same lens as macos for instance, but windows' model is fundamentaly different and that deadline is only for specific cases (that's why they can play the "sign up for backup and we'll expand your time" game) For instance Enterprise LTSC version of Windows 10 is officially supported until 2031. A ton of the devices inside these 53% have no need to move away from win 10 in any urgent way.

eviks 1y ago
I'm seeing it in the lens of the stated goal mentioned in the article "Microsoft is still sticking to its guns in promoting Windows 11 upgrades"
- makeitdouble 1y ago
  Thanks. To that point, they still have years to reach that goal, we'll see in a decade if they utterly failed.
coolspot 1y ago
I am running Enterprise LTSC version of Windows 10 in a VM for .NET development and it started to show full-screen popups saying that “it’s time to upgrade” to win11 with some text suggesting that it is urgent and time is running out.
- makeitdouble 1y ago
  That's such a Microsoft move. Corporate users under managed machines will never see that popup so it won't be an issue, so it's mainly heckling the users that probably installed Windows themselves or have a direct access to the someone who can perform the update. On OS updates I'm willing to give them a pass, but that kind of split and "foot in the door" pushiness is so typical.

airstrike 1y ago

In order to make that claim you'd need to compare it with rates in past upgrade cycles to see if it's worse or better.

speedgoose 1y ago
I am not sure. The world is different. Perhaps Windows 11 is doing better than Windows Vista or Windows Me, but does it matter?

Xelbair 1y ago

anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11. 53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.

eviks 1y ago
Interesting, how many of your friends stuck with Linux after trying out?
- throwcarsales 1y ago
  Just one data point, but I have gone full Linux Mint on almost all my computers. Being a MS guy since 1991 at 7 years old. Remember being in aw at windows 95 at 11-12. Avoided apples my whole life. Seeing how much better my friends apple computers ran than my modern windows computers, I just went full Linux. Loving it. Telling my parents and friends to consider it instead of buying a new computer to replace the 'slow one'.
  - hypercube33 1y ago
    I have one laptop I got used to be able to daily drive Linux and for now am on Zorin Pro. A lot of people don't like paying for support, or Linux, and v17 definitely has some problems but so far I'm impressed how well it runs win32 stuff out of the box and looks great. Support is pretty awesome so far too. Also yeah, I could do without paying just fine and work as basically a Windows engineer so I can Google stuff but I'm just over trying to deal with getting Linux working. I do also have a steam deck and gaming is stellar on Proton but you still need Windows for DRM triple a games.
    - throwcarsales 1y ago
      If you put your Linux questions into any decent AI it basically always solves your problems. Or atleast it did for my beginner tier issues I guess.
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d0100 1y ago

I'm still on a i7 4770k, waiting for non-bugged intel CPU's to launch, and upgrading to Win11 always fails

mslansn 1y ago
Intel cpu manufacturing issues were solved like a year ago.
FirmwareBurner 1y ago
>waiting for non-bugged intel CPU's to launch What?!
- Eavolution 1y ago
  I'm assuming they're talking about spectre/meltdown which have mitigations slowing down performance, but the hardware is vulnerable without those mitigations