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Doing that would be visa fraud. Why create any rule if ppl can commit fraud anyways? Why ask for educational qualifications for h1b because ppl can create fak

Doing that would be visa fraud. Why create any rule if ppl can commit fraud anyways? Why ask for educational qualifications for h1b because ppl can create fake certificates( many do) ?

marcinzm 1y ago
Because then anyone can be deported at any time without any more process needed since it's visa fraud. Maybe even get your citizenship revoked one day given how things are going.
Chris2048 1y ago
Would it? What makes aSM account "official"? If I make a burner account, it's still my account.
- apwell23 1y ago
  you have reveal all social media accounts not one of your choosing. ppl commenting here without even checking the basics :(
  - AlecSchueler 1y ago
    And if you deactivate the others?
    - Chris2048 1y ago
      It says "from the last five years"
      - AlecSchueler 1y ago
        So what happens if you deactivated an account within the past five years, you can't travel to the US?
  - Chris2048 1y ago
    Entry can be denied if you claim to have no social media accounts, so you can in fact only give one of your choosing to gain entry. Whether not disclosing any others is visa fraud is a matter of legal consideration iff other accounts are discovered before the collapse of the current administration.
    - apwell23 1y ago
      fraud is only fraud iff its discovered? are you a bot ? i am having hard time believing a normal adult human would come up with that .
      - Chris2048 1y ago
        There are plenty of things that are only "legal thing" once they are officially judged to be so. An obvious (to a layman HNer) crime isn't one until legally declared so. The same standard applies to many of the apparently unconstitutional actions of the current administration. Please stop with the paranoid "bot" nonsense, my account is over a decade older than yours is.
        apwell23 1y ago
        > An obvious (to a layman HNer) crime isn't one until legally declared so. ok so what? Go ahead commit fraud in visa applications? plenty do already and get visas approved, like i said in my own comment. I've seen ppl get h1b/f1 visas based on fake education certifications. ppl already know that they can commit fraud. So again, what is that you are even saying?
        Chris2048 1y ago
        > Go ahead commit fraud in visa applications? That would be "fraud", not fraud. > what is that you are even saying? I think I was clear; your morally based personal conception of "fraud" isn't relevant to what actual practise is, and this is especially relevant to an administration that might not even be acting legally in the first place. Maybe these things are fraud, or would be judged so if it goes to court, assuming such a right applies, and you aren't illegally deprived of it; maybe these standards aren't even legally valid.

Doing that would be visa fraud. Why create any rule if ppl can commit fraud anyways? Why ask for educational qualifications for h1b because ppl can create fake certificates( many do) ?

marcinzm 1y ago

Because then anyone can be deported at any time without any more process needed since it's visa fraud. Maybe even get your citizenship revoked one day given how things are going.

Chris2048 1y ago

Would it? What makes aSM account "official"? If I make a burner account, it's still my account.

apwell23 1y ago
you have reveal all social media accounts not one of your choosing. ppl commenting here without even checking the basics :(
- AlecSchueler 1y ago
  And if you deactivate the others?
  - Chris2048 1y ago
    It says "from the last five years"
    - AlecSchueler 1y ago
      So what happens if you deactivated an account within the past five years, you can't travel to the US?
- Chris2048 1y ago
  Entry can be denied if you claim to have no social media accounts, so you can in fact only give one of your choosing to gain entry. Whether not disclosing any others is visa fraud is a matter of legal consideration iff other accounts are discovered before the collapse of the current administration.
  - apwell23 1y ago
    fraud is only fraud iff its discovered? are you a bot ? i am having hard time believing a normal adult human would come up with that .
    - Chris2048 1y ago
      There are plenty of things that are only "legal thing" once they are officially judged to be so. An obvious (to a layman HNer) crime isn't one until legally declared so. The same standard applies to many of the apparently unconstitutional actions of the current administration. Please stop with the paranoid "bot" nonsense, my account is over a decade older than yours is.
      - apwell23 1y ago
        > An obvious (to a layman HNer) crime isn't one until legally declared so. ok so what? Go ahead commit fraud in visa applications? plenty do already and get visas approved, like i said in my own comment. I've seen ppl get h1b/f1 visas based on fake education certifications. ppl already know that they can commit fraud. So again, what is that you are even saying?
        Chris2048 1y ago
        > Go ahead commit fraud in visa applications? That would be "fraud", not fraud. > what is that you are even saying? I think I was clear; your morally based personal conception of "fraud" isn't relevant to what actual practise is, and this is especially relevant to an administration that might not even be acting legally in the first place. Maybe these things are fraud, or would be judged so if it goes to court, assuming such a right applies, and you aren't illegally deprived of it; maybe these standards aren't even legally valid.