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No one is pretending this is about terrorism now. They're explicit this is about curbing political activism by foreign students. Some outside the US miss that b

No one is pretending this is about terrorism now. They're explicit this is about curbing political activism by foreign students. Some outside the US miss that because few countries would have given foreign students this much room for activism in the first place.

tuyguntn 1y ago
Do you think US embassy will reject political activism if it was against China?
- Tika2234 1y ago
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- efitz 1y ago
  Do you think you would be granted a visa by China if your social media was full of anti-China rhetoric?
  - hearsathought 1y ago
    > Do you think you would be granted a visa by China if your social media was full of anti-China rhetoric? I bet you'd be granted a visa by china if your social media was full of anti-israel rhetoric though...
  - tuyguntn 1y ago
    it's strange that you are comparing democracy with a communism. Wasn't the whole premise of democracy to express yourself freely and the core idea was "rule by the people"? If country claims that they are democracy, then they should give people to add their opinion to rule the country, China is following its own core idea, ruled by a single party.
- dfxm12 1y ago
  People have been detained/face deportation for activism against other foreign countries, so why not? The point is: if the admin wants you gone, or doesn't want to let you in, they'll use anything as pretense.
mandmandam 1y ago
> They're explicit this is about curbing political activism by foreign students. Freedom of assembly is a universal human right; not that anyone seriously expects respect for those from the US any more.
- mensetmanusman 1y ago
  Except the US views it as its right to assemble who it wants to allow in. Same right, different perspective.
  - happymellon 1y ago
    How so? It doesnt even seem remotely the same. That would be the right to prevent assembly.
    - mensetmanusman 1y ago
      A team assembling on the playground that doesn’t pick all the friends who want to play together has prevented the friends from assembling. Assembly amongst all groups simultaneously isn’t possible with humans who are not bifurcating bosons.
      - happymellon 1y ago
        That doesn't make sense. Just because you used a word in a sentence doesn't make it so. > A team assembling on the playground that doesn’t pick all the friends who want to play together has prevented the friends from assembling. They haven't prevented anything. Just because a team assembled, does not exclude others from being there. They can exclude, of course, but that has nothing to do with the assembly. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/assembly https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/assembl... > uncountable noun > When you refer to rights of assembly or restrictions on assembly, you are referring to the legal right that people have to gather together It's the gathering thats the assembly, not the exclusion. You just made that up.
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tuyguntn 1y ago

Do you think US embassy will reject political activism if it was against China?

Tika2234 1y ago
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efitz 1y ago
Do you think you would be granted a visa by China if your social media was full of anti-China rhetoric?
- hearsathought 1y ago
  > Do you think you would be granted a visa by China if your social media was full of anti-China rhetoric? I bet you'd be granted a visa by china if your social media was full of anti-israel rhetoric though...
- tuyguntn 1y ago
  it's strange that you are comparing democracy with a communism. Wasn't the whole premise of democracy to express yourself freely and the core idea was "rule by the people"? If country claims that they are democracy, then they should give people to add their opinion to rule the country, China is following its own core idea, ruled by a single party.
dfxm12 1y ago
People have been detained/face deportation for activism against other foreign countries, so why not? The point is: if the admin wants you gone, or doesn't want to let you in, they'll use anything as pretense.

mandmandam 1y ago

> They're explicit this is about curbing political activism by foreign students. Freedom of assembly is a universal human right; not that anyone seriously expects respect for those from the US any more.

mensetmanusman 1y ago
Except the US views it as its right to assemble who it wants to allow in. Same right, different perspective.
- happymellon 1y ago
  How so? It doesnt even seem remotely the same. That would be the right to prevent assembly.
  - mensetmanusman 1y ago
    A team assembling on the playground that doesn’t pick all the friends who want to play together has prevented the friends from assembling. Assembly amongst all groups simultaneously isn’t possible with humans who are not bifurcating bosons.
    - happymellon 1y ago
      That doesn't make sense. Just because you used a word in a sentence doesn't make it so. > A team assembling on the playground that doesn’t pick all the friends who want to play together has prevented the friends from assembling. They haven't prevented anything. Just because a team assembled, does not exclude others from being there. They can exclude, of course, but that has nothing to do with the assembly. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/assembly https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/assembl... > uncountable noun > When you refer to rights of assembly or restrictions on assembly, you are referring to the legal right that people have to gather together It's the gathering thats the assembly, not the exclusion. You just made that up.
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