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Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do.

clcaev 1y ago
> Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do. This means deleting real-world social connections. Meta owns the interwoven communication hubs of many local communities. Let me provide an example. My swim team coach uses WhatsApp for all communication, including frequent pool schedule changes. They have strongly resisted change, as it is too much work to get 50+ subscribers to move to an alternative platform. They are the only local choice; this team is where my friends swim. Sure, I could work tirelessly to convince everyone to switch. However, most of the members use WhatsApp for other communities (eg triathlon and open-water clubs). Introducing an alternative incrementally means each member has to manage N+1 apps, etc. Importantly, super nodes (coaches, multi-club parents) with the most connections offer the most resistance: things work for them, why should they change?
- robin_reala 1y ago
  I didn’t say you should delete your account, I said you can. There will of course be downsides, but it’s a choice you can make if the negative factors tip the balance.
- throwaway83094 1y ago
  You could choose not to engage with communities that force you to use platforms that violate your rights. No need to cut anyone off for now, but something to keep in mind for the future.
  - ryandrake 1y ago
    I don’t know why you’re downvoted, you are absolutely right. We need to 1. Not engage and therefore be part of the problem and 2. Be vocal and loudly tell these businesses that it’s not acceptable to offer only Social Media mediated channels for communication. And stop doing business with those who keep doing it.
- herbst 1y ago
  Meta owns your friendships?
yonatan8070 1y ago
I actually attempted to create a Facebook account recently to be able to access Facebook Marketplace. During sign-up, I was asked to upload a video selfie of myself to confirm I'm a real person. Never did a 180 so fast in my life. I guess I simply won't communicate with anyone selling anything there, even if it's the best deal possible or not available anywhere else
- herbst 1y ago
  That's how I deal with facebook and Instagram. If it's only there, it basically doesn't exist and definitely doesn't want my business. Found great smaller shops already when looking for things that do care for my business
RamblingCTO 1y ago
> and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do. you know they still collect data about you and build a profile, right?

> Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do. This means deleting real-world social connections. Meta owns the interwoven communication hubs of many local communities. Let me provide an example. My swim team coach uses WhatsApp for all communication, including frequent pool schedule changes. They have strongly resisted change, as it is too much work to get 50+ subscribers to move to an alternative platform. They are the only local choice; this team is where my friends swim. Sure, I could work tirelessly to convince everyone to switch. However, most of the members use WhatsApp for other communities (eg triathlon and open-water clubs). Introducing an alternative incrementally means each member has to manage N+1 apps, etc. Importantly, super nodes (coaches, multi-club parents) with the most connections offer the most resistance: things work for them, why should they change?

robin_reala 1y ago
I didn’t say you should delete your account, I said you can. There will of course be downsides, but it’s a choice you can make if the negative factors tip the balance.
throwaway83094 1y ago
You could choose not to engage with communities that force you to use platforms that violate your rights. No need to cut anyone off for now, but something to keep in mind for the future.
- ryandrake 1y ago
  I don’t know why you’re downvoted, you are absolutely right. We need to 1. Not engage and therefore be part of the problem and 2. Be vocal and loudly tell these businesses that it’s not acceptable to offer only Social Media mediated channels for communication. And stop doing business with those who keep doing it.
herbst 1y ago
Meta owns your friendships?

yonatan8070 1y ago

I actually attempted to create a Facebook account recently to be able to access Facebook Marketplace. During sign-up, I was asked to upload a video selfie of myself to confirm I'm a real person. Never did a 180 so fast in my life. I guess I simply won't communicate with anyone selling anything there, even if it's the best deal possible or not available anywhere else

herbst 1y ago
That's how I deal with facebook and Instagram. If it's only there, it basically doesn't exist and definitely doesn't want my business. Found great smaller shops already when looking for things that do care for my business

RamblingCTO 1y ago

> and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do. you know they still collect data about you and build a profile, right?