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The goal isn't to stop terrorism, or drug trafficking, etc. It's to curb opposition. There's very little difference between someone that's anti-american but kee

The goal isn't to stop terrorism, or drug trafficking, etc. It's to curb opposition. There's very little difference between someone that's anti-american but keeps their opinions to themself, and someone that has no opinions. Why do you think China cracks down on speech? Is it for shits-and-giggles?

cced 1y ago
Are we now adding US to the list of countries cracking down on free speech?
- kmbfjr 1y ago
  Yes. The moment you must show allegiance to a sitting president, your rights to free speech have been abridged. I am sure there are many more examples.
  - mindslight 1y ago
    This term "sitting" is doing a lot of work. Have you seen the guy's posture? I guess the term "teetering on the edge of a chair president" doesn't have the same ring to it.
- watwut 1y ago
  Obviously yes.
- leipie 1y ago
  For me it has already been on there for quite a while now. Is has just been getting quite a bit worse, since Trump 2
15155 1y ago
> anti-american but keeps their opinions to themself, and someone that has no opinions Why do we need to be admitting anti-American individuals to this country for any reason whatsoever? News flash: visas are a privilege, not a right.
- __s 1y ago
  Anti American is a fluid term Is it anti American to oppose annexing Canada? Careful what you reply, may affect your visa application
  - 15155 1y ago
    It truly does not matter how this opinion can shift with the political climate: foreigners aren't citizens, no matter how much folks would like this to be the case.
    - netsharc 1y ago
      > We've got to do a better job of getting across that America is freedom -- freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise. And freedom is special and rare. It's fragile; it needs protection. Reagan is a hypocritical cunt of course, but how far we've fallen that now you might as well put a chain around Lady Liberty's neck, pull it down like the statues of Saddam Hussein or Assad (or I guess hanging is more appropriate, since the spiritual successors of the Confederancy is now in power), and replace it with a statue of redneck lady giving foreigners the middle finger, with "Fuck off!" written on the base.
      - 15155 1y ago
        Ah yes, because we don't automatically tolerate foreign political activists (or intelligence operatives, who cares, right?), freedom is all but lost, right?
        mandmandam 1y ago
        You have managed to conflate vocally anti-genocidal students (exercising their universal human right to freedom of assembly) with "foreign political activists" (as if they came to the US just to try and help us stop enabling genocide) - and then leaped straight to "intelligence operators". You also seem to be all over this thread insisting that these violations of human rights will only ever be applied to foreigners - even as the executive branch openly works to redefine who counts as a foreigner.

cced 1y ago

Are we now adding US to the list of countries cracking down on free speech?

kmbfjr 1y ago
Yes. The moment you must show allegiance to a sitting president, your rights to free speech have been abridged. I am sure there are many more examples.
- mindslight 1y ago
  This term "sitting" is doing a lot of work. Have you seen the guy's posture? I guess the term "teetering on the edge of a chair president" doesn't have the same ring to it.
watwut 1y ago
Obviously yes.
leipie 1y ago
For me it has already been on there for quite a while now. Is has just been getting quite a bit worse, since Trump 2

15155 1y ago

> anti-american but keeps their opinions to themself, and someone that has no opinions Why do we need to be admitting anti-American individuals to this country for any reason whatsoever? News flash: visas are a privilege, not a right.

__s 1y ago
Anti American is a fluid term Is it anti American to oppose annexing Canada? Careful what you reply, may affect your visa application
- 15155 1y ago
  It truly does not matter how this opinion can shift with the political climate: foreigners aren't citizens, no matter how much folks would like this to be the case.
  - netsharc 1y ago
    > We've got to do a better job of getting across that America is freedom -- freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise. And freedom is special and rare. It's fragile; it needs protection. Reagan is a hypocritical cunt of course, but how far we've fallen that now you might as well put a chain around Lady Liberty's neck, pull it down like the statues of Saddam Hussein or Assad (or I guess hanging is more appropriate, since the spiritual successors of the Confederancy is now in power), and replace it with a statue of redneck lady giving foreigners the middle finger, with "Fuck off!" written on the base.
    - 15155 1y ago
      Ah yes, because we don't automatically tolerate foreign political activists (or intelligence operatives, who cares, right?), freedom is all but lost, right?
      - mandmandam 1y ago
        You have managed to conflate vocally anti-genocidal students (exercising their universal human right to freedom of assembly) with "foreign political activists" (as if they came to the US just to try and help us stop enabling genocide) - and then leaped straight to "intelligence operators". You also seem to be all over this thread insisting that these violations of human rights will only ever be applied to foreigners - even as the executive branch openly works to redefine who counts as a foreigner.