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This is why I just spent weeks tracking down a modern device that I could vendor unlock and install LineageOS on. It's no longer possible on recent OnePlus devi

This is why I just spent weeks tracking down a modern device that I could vendor unlock and install LineageOS on. It's no longer possible on recent OnePlus devices and many people selling other brands on Swappa and Amazon claim their devices are vendor unlockable when they're actually just carrier unlockable. I don't want any vendor's crapware running on my device. I hate that I "have to" use Google Play to function in the modern world but Lineage and MindTheGapps is at least a less bad way to go. I should sit down and try something like postmarketOS or Mobian as a portable Linux machine is what I really want ...

goku12 1y ago
That's what I plan to do too. My current device is locked down pretty aggressively. But the problem here is, what percentage of the population has the skill and patience to do it? These companies need to hold only a simple majority of the population hostage. The holdouts like you or me can be eventually peer pressured into accepting the same abuse. For example, let's say that you avoid a certain abusive messaging platform. But what if your bank or some other essential institution insist on using it to provide their service? We can complain all they want. But they will probably just neglect you until you concede in despair. To fight this, you need affordable and ethical alternatives for the device, platform and applications. You also would need either regulation or widespread public awareness. Honestly, the current situation is hopeless on that front.
fsflover 1y ago
> I should sit down and try something like postmarketOS or Mobian as a portable Linux machine is what I really want ... Or you can buy Librem 5 with preinstalled Debian-like OS. Works for me.
- ethagnawl 1y ago
  Coincidentally, I just saw the announcement about the Fairphone 6 which is similar to the above _and_ is able to be repaired or upgraded by mere mortals.
  - fsflover 1y ago
    Librem 5 runs a Debian-like OS. It can also be easily upgraded. Most important things in it can also be repaired, including the battery, modem and WiFi card.

goku12 1y ago

That's what I plan to do too. My current device is locked down pretty aggressively. But the problem here is, what percentage of the population has the skill and patience to do it? These companies need to hold only a simple majority of the population hostage. The holdouts like you or me can be eventually peer pressured into accepting the same abuse. For example, let's say that you avoid a certain abusive messaging platform. But what if your bank or some other essential institution insist on using it to provide their service? We can complain all they want. But they will probably just neglect you until you concede in despair. To fight this, you need affordable and ethical alternatives for the device, platform and applications. You also would need either regulation or widespread public awareness. Honestly, the current situation is hopeless on that front.

fsflover 1y ago

> I should sit down and try something like postmarketOS or Mobian as a portable Linux machine is what I really want ... Or you can buy Librem 5 with preinstalled Debian-like OS. Works for me.

ethagnawl 1y ago
Coincidentally, I just saw the announcement about the Fairphone 6 which is similar to the above _and_ is able to be repaired or upgraded by mere mortals.
- fsflover 1y ago
  Librem 5 runs a Debian-like OS. It can also be easily upgraded. Most important things in it can also be repaired, including the battery, modem and WiFi card.