3 ms·

Follow the process like requiring coordinated multi-district litigation or pushing for appellate consolidation This just puts the burden on challengers to bui

Follow the process like requiring coordinated multi-district litigation or pushing for appellate consolidation This just puts the burden on challengers to build stronger cases, not shortcut national impact through procedural overreach.

magicalist 1y ago
> This just puts the burden on challengers to build stronger cases, not shortcut national impact through procedural overreach. Constitution? Never heard of it! If and when you feel like your rights are being abrogated, just file suit and the court system will get to you in the order you filed, plus three to seven years. If in the meantime you suffered hardship due to actions of the federal government, I have bad news for you forwards you link to wikipedia pages on sovereign and qualified immunity
- firesteelrain 1y ago
  I think the real answer is reforming the process so it doesn’t take so long to get relief. Not injunctive relief nationally at the lowest possible level
vkou 1y ago
> Follow the process What is the next step in the process? It no longer matters how many times and how hard you win, no precedent will ever be set. You talk about making better cases and better arguments? Don't you think that the onus is on the government to do that, when they are both doing something entirely unprecedented, and losing every time it goes to court? The point of checks and balances isn't to make it quick and easy for the executive to illegally overreach. It's to make it hard. If they want to move quickly, they should stay within the bounds of the law - which is something that Trump in particular, and his regime in general is utterly incapable of.
- firesteelrain 1y ago
  Onus is on Plaintiffs. That’s how our system works
fzeroracer 1y ago
What process? If you're a lawyer then detail the exact process for us.
- firesteelrain 1y ago
  Look at the footnote by Cavanaugh. District judges under the APA can block agency rules or action just not the President. It is effectively like a nationwide injunction

magicalist 1y ago

> This just puts the burden on challengers to build stronger cases, not shortcut national impact through procedural overreach. Constitution? Never heard of it! If and when you feel like your rights are being abrogated, just file suit and the court system will get to you in the order you filed, plus three to seven years. If in the meantime you suffered hardship due to actions of the federal government, I have bad news for you forwards you link to wikipedia pages on sovereign and qualified immunity

firesteelrain 1y ago
I think the real answer is reforming the process so it doesn’t take so long to get relief. Not injunctive relief nationally at the lowest possible level

vkou 1y ago

> Follow the process What is the next step in the process? It no longer matters how many times and how hard you win, no precedent will ever be set. You talk about making better cases and better arguments? Don't you think that the onus is on the government to do that, when they are both doing something entirely unprecedented, and losing every time it goes to court? The point of checks and balances isn't to make it quick and easy for the executive to illegally overreach. It's to make it hard. If they want to move quickly, they should stay within the bounds of the law - which is something that Trump in particular, and his regime in general is utterly incapable of.

firesteelrain 1y ago
Onus is on Plaintiffs. That’s how our system works

fzeroracer 1y ago

What process? If you're a lawyer then detail the exact process for us.

firesteelrain 1y ago
Look at the footnote by Cavanaugh. District judges under the APA can block agency rules or action just not the President. It is effectively like a nationwide injunction