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The most difficult part is getting parental enforcement. Because a lot of parents: A. Aren't tech savvy enough to set up rigorous controls. B. Don't feel like

The most difficult part is getting parental enforcement. Because a lot of parents: A. Aren't tech savvy enough to set up rigorous controls. B. Don't feel like dealing with setting up the controls to keep their kid quiet. C. Allow things that contain the content anyway. (Twitter, Discord, Reddit, etc.) And D. Assuming their kids don't learn to bypass it anyway. I'm sure with the locked down nature of devices today, good parental controls are easier to come by. But when I was a tech savvy teen, the controls on my machine weren't much more effective than wishful thinking.

pyuser583 1y ago
I'm a very, very "tech savy" parent, raising a non tech savy child. Parental control software simply does not work. It just does not. And even worse, it is advertized as working! The only solution is to deprive them of devices that access the Internet. But even that does not work, because schools often require Chromebooks to use with Google Classroom. Did I mention Google Classroom has workarounds that let through tons of inappropriate content, and there is no way for the school to know? When the schools are literally requiring software that allows inappropriate, what can you do?
- devilbunny 1y ago
  Go to a school board meeting early, before it starts. Bring up the issue, and say “if any of you doubt that this can be done, I will happily demonstrate just how easy it is - privately, and with content that is legally available to adults.” If they aren’t responsive, call a local TV reporter.
  - pyuser583 1y ago
    I have strongly explored such options, and decided against this approach.
    - devilbunny 1y ago
      I would be interested to know why, if you don’t mind sharing.
      - WarOnPrivacy 1y ago
        Not the parent but I raised 5 and spent lots of time with their educators. A school board meeting comes with limitations on what can be communicated. It often isn't a good fit to introduce new factors because there is no time learn and evaluate them properly. School boards are commonly composed of non-technical people. They will be limited in their ability to judge the risks that are presented. Besides time, they'll need to have access to (and trust) qualified people of good judgment. It's a lot of prequalifiers. And all of the above aside, school board positions have recently become appealing to agenda-driven bad actors. If they happen to be on your board, whatever you present will be viewed thru the lens of their agenda. Good outcomes tend to starve in that environment.
      - pyuser583 1y ago
        I know the school board members and local reporters. It’s a small town. Everybody knows everybody. School board meetings are already filled with too many folks putting on partisan displays. I think the message would be combined with other messages, and would not make anything better.
        devilbunny 1y ago
        That was why I said “before it starts”. I wouldn’t put it on the public agenda for that reason, at least until you had discussed it with the members privately first. Edit: but in a small town I could see why you would be extra-cautious.
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pyuser583 1y ago

I'm a very, very "tech savy" parent, raising a non tech savy child. Parental control software simply does not work. It just does not. And even worse, it is advertized as working! The only solution is to deprive them of devices that access the Internet. But even that does not work, because schools often require Chromebooks to use with Google Classroom. Did I mention Google Classroom has workarounds that let through tons of inappropriate content, and there is no way for the school to know? When the schools are literally requiring software that allows inappropriate, what can you do?

devilbunny 1y ago
Go to a school board meeting early, before it starts. Bring up the issue, and say “if any of you doubt that this can be done, I will happily demonstrate just how easy it is - privately, and with content that is legally available to adults.” If they aren’t responsive, call a local TV reporter.
- pyuser583 1y ago
  I have strongly explored such options, and decided against this approach.
  - devilbunny 1y ago
    I would be interested to know why, if you don’t mind sharing.
    - WarOnPrivacy 1y ago
      Not the parent but I raised 5 and spent lots of time with their educators. A school board meeting comes with limitations on what can be communicated. It often isn't a good fit to introduce new factors because there is no time learn and evaluate them properly. School boards are commonly composed of non-technical people. They will be limited in their ability to judge the risks that are presented. Besides time, they'll need to have access to (and trust) qualified people of good judgment. It's a lot of prequalifiers. And all of the above aside, school board positions have recently become appealing to agenda-driven bad actors. If they happen to be on your board, whatever you present will be viewed thru the lens of their agenda. Good outcomes tend to starve in that environment.
    - pyuser583 1y ago
      I know the school board members and local reporters. It’s a small town. Everybody knows everybody. School board meetings are already filled with too many folks putting on partisan displays. I think the message would be combined with other messages, and would not make anything better.
      - devilbunny 1y ago
        That was why I said “before it starts”. I wouldn’t put it on the public agenda for that reason, at least until you had discussed it with the members privately first. Edit: but in a small town I could see why you would be extra-cautious.
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