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That’s the gist, yes, at least initially. It never stops at a given category of person, though, and you can assume next steps would be to set arbitrary mileston
by stego-tech 1y ago
That’s the gist, yes, at least initially. It never stops at a given category of person, though, and you can assume next steps would be to set arbitrary milestones and dates around who is and is not a citizen based on birthright. Picture the glut of immigrants in the 1800 and 1900s who never got proper citizenship, or only had permanent residency. You can bet that the next step would be to say if you can’t point to a US Citizen direct ancestor after a given year, you’re no longer a citizen yourself.
That’s why revocation through Executive Order alone is so dangerous: its intent isn’t merely to get all undesirables today, but all undesirables ever, no matter what the definition of “undesirable” is.
- throwaway48476 1y agoSome of us can trace ancestry to service in the revolutionary war.
- jfengel 1y agoI can't. My family has been here for only about five generations. Probably legally, but I doubt I can prove that. Bye.
- baseballdork 1y agoDoes this make you more of a citizen than literally any other? It shouldn't.
- readthenotes1 1y agoIt means I still have an advantage because my ancestors did not manage to completely squander the land grants given as a result of that service... Does it mean that the lady I met last year who flew from Brazil to have her babies in the US did a right thing? That's the question for the court
- throwaway48476 1y agoDual citizens have somewhere else to go when the ship sinks. They're never going to be as invested in the future of the country as those who don't.
- HaZeust 1y agoWho said dual citizenship is on the table for most of the folks affected by these proceedings? For many people, this WILL be home. Why will some H1B visa kid give a shit about Iran, Venezuela or Mexico when one of his parents are from any of those places - and THEY aren't?
- throwaway48476 1y agoPeople don't lose their parents citizenship anymore because record keeping is much better now. My ancestors probably arrived in the 1720s but the British burned the census records during the revolution. This doesn't happen anymore. As for dual citizens they were all waving Mexican flags during the LA protests. They wouldn't if they didn't give a shit.
- HaZeust 1y ago>"The British burned the census records during the revolution. This doesn't happen anymore." LOL What? Destruction against governmental records doesn't happen anymore? I guess you can spare me for remembering Iraq's National Library being burned down twice in 2003, or Israel - which is on its newest genocidal bender and is now creating NEW fresh asylum seekers that this information will be relevant for - destroying media devices and storage in Palestinian territories the year before. >"As for dual citizens they were all waving Mexican flags during the LA protests. They wouldn't if they didn't give a shit." They probably did, and I can redirect your attention to tons of families born outside of America that had children here that subscribed to national identity. - Kamala Harris, Indian Mother and Jamaican Father - Vivek Murthy, Indian parents - Sergey Brin, Jewish Soviet parents Great, we have cherrypicked examples for both of our stances, how would you like to proceed?
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