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If anybody just wants to download the hi-res images, Internet Archive is your friend: https://archive.org/details/usda-pomological-watercolor-collection https:/

If anybody just wants to download the hi-res images, Internet Archive is your friend: https://archive.org/details/usda-pomological-watercolor-collection https://archive.org/details/usda-pomological-watercolor-coll... You can have fun with 'em since they're public domain (: Note 1: The metadata, such as title, author, etc. seem to be missing. If anyone knows of a collection with all that included, let me know (it's not in the EXIF either, I spot-checked). EDIT: aha! Here is metadata, which you can correlate to the image files: https://github.com/Wumms/pomological https://github.com/Wumms/pomological Note 2: I saw this in the MARC catalog record: Use of the images in the U.S. Department of Agriculture Pomological Watercolor Collection is not restricted, but a statement of attribution is required. Please use the following attribution statement: "U.S. Department of Agriculture Pomological Watercolor Collection. Rare and Special Collections, National Agricultural Library, Beltsville, MD 20705"

biker142541 1y ago
I'm also noticing there is no explicit license on the official page. If it's public domain, attribution is not required. If it is not public domain, they should clarify the license (pretty sure this is indeed public domain). Ambiguity like this is way too common...
- interroboink 1y ago
  Yeah, agreed it's weird. For another data point, this catalog.data.gov site[1] lists the license as "us-pd" (ie public domain in the USA). But then yeah, like you said the attribution demand is invalid. [1] https://catalog.data.gov/dataset/u-s-department-of-agriculture-usda-pomological-watercolor-collection-750fb https://catalog.data.gov/dataset/u-s-department-of-agricultu...
msla 1y ago
I wonder how the USDA can demand anything regarding images created well before the copyright cutoff of 1929. I strongly suspect that's boilerplate text with no actual force.
- biker142541 1y ago
  Oh definitely no force behind it, but just annoying to see. These kinds of issues don't exactly block usage, but can plant a lot of confusion or hesitation for potential users. I wish agencies proactively embraced "please go use this awesome stuff" mentality vs gatekeeping by default.
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biker142541 1y ago

I'm also noticing there is no explicit license on the official page. If it's public domain, attribution is not required. If it is not public domain, they should clarify the license (pretty sure this is indeed public domain). Ambiguity like this is way too common...

interroboink 1y ago
Yeah, agreed it's weird. For another data point, this catalog.data.gov site[1] lists the license as "us-pd" (ie public domain in the USA). But then yeah, like you said the attribution demand is invalid. [1] https://catalog.data.gov/dataset/u-s-department-of-agriculture-usda-pomological-watercolor-collection-750fb https://catalog.data.gov/dataset/u-s-department-of-agricultu...

msla 1y ago

I wonder how the USDA can demand anything regarding images created well before the copyright cutoff of 1929. I strongly suspect that's boilerplate text with no actual force.

biker142541 1y ago
Oh definitely no force behind it, but just annoying to see. These kinds of issues don't exactly block usage, but can plant a lot of confusion or hesitation for potential users. I wish agencies proactively embraced "please go use this awesome stuff" mentality vs gatekeeping by default.

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