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This is just the beginning. Edit: really confused as to why this simple statement is flagged

superfrank 1y ago
"...and if we let gay people get married soon people will be marrying their dogs!" I do think there are legitimate reasons to not like the bill, but what you said is classic slippery slope
- cchance 1y ago
  Because .... ITS A SLIPPERY SLOPE, that the republicans in charge and religious right wing have shown they are perfectly OK with pushing for, shit its funny how project 2025 is like 60% implemented and people are still acting like its all some conspiracy and this weird religious right wing shit isnt actually happening
  - superfrank 1y ago
    "IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE! First we gave women rights, then black people rights, and now we're trying to give trans people rights and rights to illegal immigrants!" To be clear, I support all of those things, but the point I'm making is that saying it's a slippery slope is a bad argument because A) the next steps are often based on opinion and not fact and B) what one person sees as a slippery slope another person sees as progress and growth. I'm not arguing in favor of this Texas bill (I have pretty mixed feelings about it honestly). I'm just saying the argument the first person made is a bad argument.
    - linotype 1y ago
      We’re already sliding down the slippery slope. Claiming I’m arguing in bad faith is just helping the people that are pushing us down it. A slippery slope isn’t a bad thing if it involves people getting more rights. I also think it’s somewhat ironic that my simple statement that started this conversation has been flagged. Free speech really is done in the US.
    - hooverd 1y ago
      sometimes you can clearly see the slope being greased
    - DrillShopper 1y ago
      If you're not arguing for it, stop being an apologist for it.
      - superfrank 1y ago
        Why? Pointing out a flawed argument isn't the same as supporting an idea.
    - heavyset_go 1y ago
      We are living through a real life example of the fallacy fallacy: the fallacy that because an argument contains a logical fallacy, that does not mean it is not true.
- linotype 1y ago
  That’s an insane leap of what I said. Like the opposite of what I said. Legalizing gay marriage is giving people more rights, not restricting them like what the court is doing here.
- reverendsteveii 1y ago
  One difference is that there are absolutely no people involved with the current political power structure who are openly saying their end goal is to marry dogs. "“Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.” --Project 2025
thisislife2 1y ago
Ofcourse it is. Reddit to start working with “various third-party services” to verify a user’s humanity - https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/06/reddit-will-tighten-verification-to-keep-out-human-like-ai-bots/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/06/reddit-will-tighten-verifi...
silverquiet 1y ago
Probably so - I've long lost the thread of what most of this is about. For instance, the state recently passed a law requiring that the ten commandments be posted in every classroom. And I had to stop and think - how many of these legislators themselves feel like they should be bound by said commandments? I'd suspect hardly any, based on their behavior.
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"...and if we let gay people get married soon people will be marrying their dogs!" I do think there are legitimate reasons to not like the bill, but what you said is classic slippery slope

cchance 1y ago
Because .... ITS A SLIPPERY SLOPE, that the republicans in charge and religious right wing have shown they are perfectly OK with pushing for, shit its funny how project 2025 is like 60% implemented and people are still acting like its all some conspiracy and this weird religious right wing shit isnt actually happening
- superfrank 1y ago
  "IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE! First we gave women rights, then black people rights, and now we're trying to give trans people rights and rights to illegal immigrants!" To be clear, I support all of those things, but the point I'm making is that saying it's a slippery slope is a bad argument because A) the next steps are often based on opinion and not fact and B) what one person sees as a slippery slope another person sees as progress and growth. I'm not arguing in favor of this Texas bill (I have pretty mixed feelings about it honestly). I'm just saying the argument the first person made is a bad argument.
  - linotype 1y ago
    We’re already sliding down the slippery slope. Claiming I’m arguing in bad faith is just helping the people that are pushing us down it. A slippery slope isn’t a bad thing if it involves people getting more rights. I also think it’s somewhat ironic that my simple statement that started this conversation has been flagged. Free speech really is done in the US.
  - hooverd 1y ago
    sometimes you can clearly see the slope being greased
  - DrillShopper 1y ago
    If you're not arguing for it, stop being an apologist for it.
    - superfrank 1y ago
      Why? Pointing out a flawed argument isn't the same as supporting an idea.
  - heavyset_go 1y ago
    We are living through a real life example of the fallacy fallacy: the fallacy that because an argument contains a logical fallacy, that does not mean it is not true.
linotype 1y ago
That’s an insane leap of what I said. Like the opposite of what I said. Legalizing gay marriage is giving people more rights, not restricting them like what the court is doing here.
reverendsteveii 1y ago
One difference is that there are absolutely no people involved with the current political power structure who are openly saying their end goal is to marry dogs. "“Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.” --Project 2025

thisislife2 1y ago

Ofcourse it is. Reddit to start working with “various third-party services” to verify a user’s humanity - https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/06/reddit-will-tighten-verification-to-keep-out-human-like-ai-bots/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/06/reddit-will-tighten-verifi...

silverquiet 1y ago

Probably so - I've long lost the thread of what most of this is about. For instance, the state recently passed a law requiring that the ten commandments be posted in every classroom. And I had to stop and think - how many of these legislators themselves feel like they should be bound by said commandments? I'd suspect hardly any, based on their behavior.

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