>That codebase also runs on: variety of UNIX/Linux distros and their terminal emulators; MS-DOS; Windows; etc. So what? Those can still run Emacs. Progress in

>That codebase also runs on: variety of UNIX/Linux distros and their terminal emulators; MS-DOS; Windows; etc. So what? Those can still run Emacs. Progress in programming editors should not stop because they new one might not run on MS-DOS or some obscure platform. If people want it there it might get ported eventually anyway. >Emacs supports mice: both scrolling; clickable hyperlinks; drag regions; buttons and other widgets. I know it does, I use it from time to time. Heck, even Vim does. What I wrote is that it wasn't _designed_ for those things -- they are an afterthought. >Touchpads? Do you mean tablets or laptop touchpads? That's a HID device and works the same as a mouse does... No it doesn't. 2012 trackpads also feature multitouch gestures. >Graphics? Yes, Emacs supports graphics and can indeed render PDFs/LaTeX documents using external programs; native image support is usually compiled into Emacs. Yes, badly. Again, it wasn't designed from the start to do so, most of the additions are badly implemented. The rendering, for one, is a joke. >Emacs-Lisp isn't great, but Emacs and elisp is the closest most people will ever get to the spirit of a Lisp Machine Not if someone comes up with something better that Emacs. (Or even better, not if someone comes up with something even better than the early eighties Lisp Machine design). >Design could be a lot better, but that's what happens when you support the same product for a long long period of time. I know Emacs/Vim will be around in 10 years; will Light Table? Only one way to find out: let's build it, use it, wait and see. I'm sure that Eclipse, for example, will be around in 10 years too. And it started 20 years after Emacs. >That's just blasphemy. You should observe an experience Emacs guy using Emacs and I think you'll find they're more than capable of accomplishing what they want in few keystrokes. Any scientific control group and alternative A/B/A tests that show that Emacs's are the optimal keyboard shortcuts? If not, then I propose we continue investigating the matter, blapshemy or not.