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> Prof Watson is director of Ionad Eeghainn MhicLachlainn: the National Centre for Gaelic Translation (NCGT), which exists specifically to support the translati

> Prof Watson is director of Ionad Eeghainn MhicLachlainn: the National Centre for Gaelic Translation (NCGT), which exists specifically to support the translation of literature into Gaelic, as well as Manx and Irish. It's interesting that unmodified "Gaelic" apparently refers to Scots Gaelic in Wales. If you asked me about "Gaelic", I'd assume you meant Irish Gaelic.

luxpir 1y ago
Not sure where you're from, but the way it seems to have fallen now is Irish Gaelic is called Irish and Gaelic (pronounced "gallic") is usually the Scottish variant. Unless you know better, or of some reform, in which case I defer!
- thaumasiotes 1y ago
  It does appear to be true that the government of Ireland prefers to call the language "Irish". https://www.ireland.ie/en/technology-fuelling-global-irish-language-revival/ https://www.ireland.ie/en/technology-fuelling-global-irish-l... I'm from the United States. (While we're here, we might also note that the term "Erse", referring to Scots Gaelic, is in fact the word "Irish".)
pqtyw 1y ago
It's theorized that Gaelic was introduced to Scotland from Ireland only in the 5h century or so. We know very little about Pictish that was spoken there before it, it was probably Celtic but we don't even know that for sure.
- luxpir 1y ago
  As a complete layman with a curiosity-based interest, I'd have to guess it was (what is now called) Welsh, surely? Could it have been some lost continental Germanic/Celtic tribe? Seems less likely on balance. Maybe a big discovery still to come that will clear it up. A tomb somewhere under a housing estate in Glasgow or something.
simplesimon890 1y ago
As others have commented, the Irish language is called Irish when describing it in English, and Gaeilge in the language itself. Online people can get a bit snippy about calling it the wrong thing, even though they don't necessarily have a great grasp of the language itself. There's a lot of post-colonial baggage with regard to people's relationship with the language (IMO) In Ireland, the term Gaelic typically refers to the general Irish identity and culture. Almost always, when people use the term Gaelic in everyday speech they're referring to Gaelic Games, which are the indigenous sports of Ireland. Gaelic Football, Hurling, Handball, and rounders. The GAA ( Gaelic Athletic Association ) that governs the games are in every village, town, and city, and the sports are probably the strongest expression of Gaelic culture in the country. Some highlights of the 2 most popular games. Gaelic Football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT5Zjx4fTXI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT5Zjx4fTXI Hurling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Vw66Zs0dQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Vw66Zs0dQ

luxpir 1y ago

Not sure where you're from, but the way it seems to have fallen now is Irish Gaelic is called Irish and Gaelic (pronounced "gallic") is usually the Scottish variant. Unless you know better, or of some reform, in which case I defer!

thaumasiotes 1y ago
It does appear to be true that the government of Ireland prefers to call the language "Irish". https://www.ireland.ie/en/technology-fuelling-global-irish-language-revival/ https://www.ireland.ie/en/technology-fuelling-global-irish-l... I'm from the United States. (While we're here, we might also note that the term "Erse", referring to Scots Gaelic, is in fact the word "Irish".)

pqtyw 1y ago

It's theorized that Gaelic was introduced to Scotland from Ireland only in the 5h century or so. We know very little about Pictish that was spoken there before it, it was probably Celtic but we don't even know that for sure.

luxpir 1y ago
As a complete layman with a curiosity-based interest, I'd have to guess it was (what is now called) Welsh, surely? Could it have been some lost continental Germanic/Celtic tribe? Seems less likely on balance. Maybe a big discovery still to come that will clear it up. A tomb somewhere under a housing estate in Glasgow or something.

simplesimon890 1y ago

As others have commented, the Irish language is called Irish when describing it in English, and Gaeilge in the language itself. Online people can get a bit snippy about calling it the wrong thing, even though they don't necessarily have a great grasp of the language itself. There's a lot of post-colonial baggage with regard to people's relationship with the language (IMO) In Ireland, the term Gaelic typically refers to the general Irish identity and culture. Almost always, when people use the term Gaelic in everyday speech they're referring to Gaelic Games, which are the indigenous sports of Ireland. Gaelic Football, Hurling, Handball, and rounders. The GAA ( Gaelic Athletic Association ) that governs the games are in every village, town, and city, and the sports are probably the strongest expression of Gaelic culture in the country. Some highlights of the 2 most popular games. Gaelic Football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT5Zjx4fTXI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT5Zjx4fTXI Hurling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Vw66Zs0dQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Vw66Zs0dQ