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Apple got away with disobeying the Epic v Apple orders for like 4 years. Something tells me they don’t care too much for laws.

walterbell 1y ago
Three days to implement recent ruling? 2025-04-31, "Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43856795 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43856795 2025-05-02, "Apple App Store guidelines remove ban on encouraging external payments in US", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43867692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43867692 2025-06-04, "Court denies Apple appeal in Epic Games case, keeping App Store changes in place", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44186891 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44186891
- doctorpangloss 1y ago
  Go ahead and read the first page of the April 31st, 2025 order that you linked: "For the reasons set forth herein, the Court FINDS Apple in willful violation of this Court’s 2021 Injunction which issued to restrain and prohibit Apple’s anticompetitive conduct and anticompetitive pricing." But this stuff is presented in not the most accessible ways. I tried authoring the tweet-length version. It's up to you, whom to trust or not trust on the Internet!
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- Zak 1y ago
  The short version is that they were given a lot of flexibility in how they complied with the previous ruling and a lot of time in which to do it. The judge found their implementation did not comply, so she decided how they were to comply with very little flexibility and a short timetable.
ocdtrekkie 1y ago
I am pretty sure the majority of Apple and Google's privileged legal communications equate to "how do we draw this out as long as possible". They know what they're doing isn't legal, but since neither the US or the EU will actually claw back ill-gotten gains it makes sense to continue as long as they can.

walterbell 1y ago

Three days to implement recent ruling? 2025-04-31, "Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43856795 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43856795 2025-05-02, "Apple App Store guidelines remove ban on encouraging external payments in US", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43867692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43867692 2025-06-04, "Court denies Apple appeal in Epic Games case, keeping App Store changes in place", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44186891 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44186891

doctorpangloss 1y ago
Go ahead and read the first page of the April 31st, 2025 order that you linked: "For the reasons set forth herein, the Court FINDS Apple in willful violation of this Court’s 2021 Injunction which issued to restrain and prohibit Apple’s anticompetitive conduct and anticompetitive pricing." But this stuff is presented in not the most accessible ways. I tried authoring the tweet-length version. It's up to you, whom to trust or not trust on the Internet!
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Zak 1y ago
The short version is that they were given a lot of flexibility in how they complied with the previous ruling and a lot of time in which to do it. The judge found their implementation did not comply, so she decided how they were to comply with very little flexibility and a short timetable.

ocdtrekkie 1y ago

I am pretty sure the majority of Apple and Google's privileged legal communications equate to "how do we draw this out as long as possible". They know what they're doing isn't legal, but since neither the US or the EU will actually claw back ill-gotten gains it makes sense to continue as long as they can.