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Many very simple things can badly hurt or kill someone who doesn't take a few minutes to not be stupid about using them properly. Legislating with absurdities a

Many very simple things can badly hurt or kill someone who doesn't take a few minutes to not be stupid about using them properly. Legislating with absurdities applied to all anything that possibly leads to completely individual harm because a few people can't take normal responsibility for themselves emphatically isn't reasonable.

padjo 1y ago
It’s not theoretical. On one side of the ledger we have people dying horrible deaths, on the other side we have people who can’t have vast quantities of paracetamol on hand for no particular reason. If you do in fact need vast quantities of paracetamol for some reason, it can be prescribed.
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  The very idea that you should need special permission from some form of officialdom for having access to anything that is very widely useful but in all but a very, very small subset of select cases involving very, very few people who harm only themselves with its misuse is what's genuinely disgusting here. The vast majority of adults should be able to live in a world where they're not treated like 10-year-old children for seeking a bit of modest pain relief for very common ailments.
  - padjo 1y ago
    I really hope I never find myself living in a society where your perspective dominates. I’d rather we took care of the weak than grumble about such an inconsequential inconvenience.
    - exolymph 1y ago
      This attitude is why your society arrests people for mean tweets.
singleshot_ 1y ago
> a few Fifty thousand hospital visits per year > isn’t reasonable Fortunately this is not a popular opinion
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  You used and descontextualizad the scariest number possible for whatever instinctively nannying nonsense reason of your own. There were over 50,000 hospital emergency room visits, yes. However, bear in mind that many thousands of people visit emergency rooms for all kinds of unfounded reasons every year anyhow. Of those 50,000+ paracetamol-related visits (speaking of the United States here), less than 5% resulted in any need for hospitalization and only 450 or so deaths were registered in 2023, as a recent example year. These numbers out of an estimated 60 million individual uses PER WEEK by Americans according to the NIH. For some perspective, accidents caused by "Fall involving ice-skates, skis, roller-skates or skateboards" in the U.S cause an average of 1000+ deaths per year. Paracetamol can, just like many drugs, be dangerous, but if your criteria for paranoid restriction of something so commonly necessary and used without problems in the extreme absolute vast majority of cases are the numbers above, you'd better start banning one enormous shit list of completely innocuous activities and things that normal adults have access to before you reach something like paracetamol. There seems to be a sort of mental illness prevalent in the kind of logic that equates any evidence of self-harm with a given product or thing with a rabid need to treat people like children in their access to it. The entire adult population should not have to be treated like drooling morons in their very most basic personal medical choices because a completely minuscule percentage of the population lacks the mental capacity to read a basic safety label for a common medicine, or control their childrens' access to something that's easy to keep away from them.
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padjo 1y ago

It’s not theoretical. On one side of the ledger we have people dying horrible deaths, on the other side we have people who can’t have vast quantities of paracetamol on hand for no particular reason. If you do in fact need vast quantities of paracetamol for some reason, it can be prescribed.

southernplaces7 1y ago
The very idea that you should need special permission from some form of officialdom for having access to anything that is very widely useful but in all but a very, very small subset of select cases involving very, very few people who harm only themselves with its misuse is what's genuinely disgusting here. The vast majority of adults should be able to live in a world where they're not treated like 10-year-old children for seeking a bit of modest pain relief for very common ailments.
- padjo 1y ago
  I really hope I never find myself living in a society where your perspective dominates. I’d rather we took care of the weak than grumble about such an inconsequential inconvenience.
  - exolymph 1y ago
    This attitude is why your society arrests people for mean tweets.

singleshot_ 1y ago

> a few Fifty thousand hospital visits per year > isn’t reasonable Fortunately this is not a popular opinion

southernplaces7 1y ago
You used and descontextualizad the scariest number possible for whatever instinctively nannying nonsense reason of your own. There were over 50,000 hospital emergency room visits, yes. However, bear in mind that many thousands of people visit emergency rooms for all kinds of unfounded reasons every year anyhow. Of those 50,000+ paracetamol-related visits (speaking of the United States here), less than 5% resulted in any need for hospitalization and only 450 or so deaths were registered in 2023, as a recent example year. These numbers out of an estimated 60 million individual uses PER WEEK by Americans according to the NIH. For some perspective, accidents caused by "Fall involving ice-skates, skis, roller-skates or skateboards" in the U.S cause an average of 1000+ deaths per year. Paracetamol can, just like many drugs, be dangerous, but if your criteria for paranoid restriction of something so commonly necessary and used without problems in the extreme absolute vast majority of cases are the numbers above, you'd better start banning one enormous shit list of completely innocuous activities and things that normal adults have access to before you reach something like paracetamol. There seems to be a sort of mental illness prevalent in the kind of logic that equates any evidence of self-harm with a given product or thing with a rabid need to treat people like children in their access to it. The entire adult population should not have to be treated like drooling morons in their very most basic personal medical choices because a completely minuscule percentage of the population lacks the mental capacity to read a basic safety label for a common medicine, or control their childrens' access to something that's easy to keep away from them.
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