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Where is Cranelift mentioned My 2c on this is nearly ditching rust for game development due to the compile times, in digging it turned out that LLVM is very sl

Where is Cranelift mentioned My 2c on this is nearly ditching rust for game development due to the compile times, in digging it turned out that LLVM is very slow regardless of opt level. Indeed it's what the Jai devs have been saying. So Cranelift might be relevant for OP, I will shill it endlessly, took my game from 16 seconds to 4 seconds. Incredible work Cranelift team.

jiehong 1y ago
I think that’s what zig team is also doing to allow very fast build times: remove LLVM.
- norman784 1y ago
  Yes, Zig author commented[0] that a while ago [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44390972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44390972
norman784 1y ago
Nice, I checked a while ago and was no support for macOS aarch64, but seems that now it is supported.
lll-o-lll 1y ago
Wait. You were going to ditch rust because of 16 second build times?
- sarchertech 1y ago
  16 seconds is infuriating for something that needs to be manually tested like does this jump feel too floaty. But it’s also probable that 16 seconds was fairly early in development and it would get much worse from there.
- metaltyphoon 1y ago
  Over time that adds up when your coding consists of REPL like workflow.
- kenoath69 1y ago
  Pulling out Instagram 100 times in every workday, yes, it's a total disaster
  - johnisgood 1y ago
    It may also contribute to smoking. :D Or (over-)eating... or whatever your vice is.
- Mawr 1y ago
  "Wait. You were going to ditch subversion for git because of 16 second branch merge times?" Performance matters.
BreakfastB0b 1y ago
I participated in the most recent Bevy game jam and the community has a new tool that came out of Dioxus called subsecond which as the name suggests provides sub-second hot reloading of systems. It made prototyping very pleasant. Especially when iterating on UI. https://github.com/TheBevyFlock/bevy_simple_subsecond_system https://github.com/TheBevyFlock/bevy_simple_subsecond_system
ptspts 1y ago
Isn't `gcc -O0` (for both C and C++) even slower than `clang -O0`?

jiehong 1y ago

I think that’s what zig team is also doing to allow very fast build times: remove LLVM.

norman784 1y ago
Yes, Zig author commented[0] that a while ago [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44390972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44390972

norman784 1y ago

Nice, I checked a while ago and was no support for macOS aarch64, but seems that now it is supported.

lll-o-lll 1y ago

Wait. You were going to ditch rust because of 16 second build times?

sarchertech 1y ago
16 seconds is infuriating for something that needs to be manually tested like does this jump feel too floaty. But it’s also probable that 16 seconds was fairly early in development and it would get much worse from there.
metaltyphoon 1y ago
Over time that adds up when your coding consists of REPL like workflow.
kenoath69 1y ago
Pulling out Instagram 100 times in every workday, yes, it's a total disaster
- johnisgood 1y ago
  It may also contribute to smoking. :D Or (over-)eating... or whatever your vice is.
Mawr 1y ago
"Wait. You were going to ditch subversion for git because of 16 second branch merge times?" Performance matters.

BreakfastB0b 1y ago

I participated in the most recent Bevy game jam and the community has a new tool that came out of Dioxus called subsecond which as the name suggests provides sub-second hot reloading of systems. It made prototyping very pleasant. Especially when iterating on UI. https://github.com/TheBevyFlock/bevy_simple_subsecond_system https://github.com/TheBevyFlock/bevy_simple_subsecond_system

ptspts 1y ago

Isn't `gcc -O0` (for both C and C++) even slower than `clang -O0`?