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Doesn't that get balanced by the fact that it will take forever to get places in cars, if everyone starts using them instead of public transit?

dylan604 1y ago
I honestly do not think I've ever heard someone say that taking mass transpo is faster. Even if it does take "forever" in a car, people do not mind sitting in their car "forever" compared to sitting with strangers "forever"
- tikkabhuna 1y ago
  Obviously a very different view, but public transport in London (UK) is very much seen as faster than driving. The only reason someone would choose to drive is if they needed to transport something difficult to take on public transport.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    Do other cities not consider buses as part of public transport? Are we limiting our discussion to trains/subway?
- t-writescode 1y ago
  In Seattle proper and anywhere its transit is good, transit and walking are definitely preferable to cars.
- AnimalMuppet 1y ago
  It's called "rapid transit". That's exactly what the "rapid" part means - faster than a car. There are very few of these in the US. Chicago El, BART, but I'm unsure if there are any others.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    Maybe I'm conflating my town's DART--Dallas Area Rapid Transit--with other cities' rapid transit, as DART includes buses which use the same city streets as cars, only the cars don't have to make stops at the bus stops like the "rapid transit" buses (which is their entire point of being). The DART train stations are few and far apart that they are really only useful for getting to/from the outskirts into town. For me to drive to my local rail station is roughly the same distance/time as to just drive downtown.
  - JojoFatsani 1y ago
    Boston MBTA, NYC subway, LA metro, DC metro. Atlanta MARTA.
- jobs_throwaway 1y ago
  You definitely hear this regularly discussed in NYC, where for many corridors transit is dramatically faster than driving.
  - JojoFatsani 1y ago
    Almost all.
5555624 1y ago
Maybe in New York City, during rush hour, it takes longer to get somewhere by car than it does using public transportation (I don't know); but, that's usually not the case. When I lived in Arlington, VA with regional and county buses, as well as a subway, waling and public transportation took over an hour to get to work in Washington, D.C. By car, it was maybe 20 minutes.(I biked to work, which took longer than driving, since I had to take a less direct route.) Now, I work from home and I'm a 20 minute drive from the office; but, public transportation is a two-hour trip, one way. (Either 1:55 or 2:05, depending on the bus.)

dylan604 1y ago

I honestly do not think I've ever heard someone say that taking mass transpo is faster. Even if it does take "forever" in a car, people do not mind sitting in their car "forever" compared to sitting with strangers "forever"

tikkabhuna 1y ago
Obviously a very different view, but public transport in London (UK) is very much seen as faster than driving. The only reason someone would choose to drive is if they needed to transport something difficult to take on public transport.
- dylan604 1y ago
  Do other cities not consider buses as part of public transport? Are we limiting our discussion to trains/subway?
t-writescode 1y ago
In Seattle proper and anywhere its transit is good, transit and walking are definitely preferable to cars.
AnimalMuppet 1y ago
It's called "rapid transit". That's exactly what the "rapid" part means - faster than a car. There are very few of these in the US. Chicago El, BART, but I'm unsure if there are any others.
- dylan604 1y ago
  Maybe I'm conflating my town's DART--Dallas Area Rapid Transit--with other cities' rapid transit, as DART includes buses which use the same city streets as cars, only the cars don't have to make stops at the bus stops like the "rapid transit" buses (which is their entire point of being). The DART train stations are few and far apart that they are really only useful for getting to/from the outskirts into town. For me to drive to my local rail station is roughly the same distance/time as to just drive downtown.
- JojoFatsani 1y ago
  Boston MBTA, NYC subway, LA metro, DC metro. Atlanta MARTA.
jobs_throwaway 1y ago
You definitely hear this regularly discussed in NYC, where for many corridors transit is dramatically faster than driving.
- JojoFatsani 1y ago
  Almost all.

5555624 1y ago

Maybe in New York City, during rush hour, it takes longer to get somewhere by car than it does using public transportation (I don't know); but, that's usually not the case. When I lived in Arlington, VA with regional and county buses, as well as a subway, waling and public transportation took over an hour to get to work in Washington, D.C. By car, it was maybe 20 minutes.(I biked to work, which took longer than driving, since I had to take a less direct route.) Now, I work from home and I'm a 20 minute drive from the office; but, public transportation is a two-hour trip, one way. (Either 1:55 or 2:05, depending on the bus.)