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> And the "I don't use these tools and never will" sentiment is rampant in the tech community right now So is the "These tools are game changers and are going

> And the "I don't use these tools and never will" sentiment is rampant in the tech community right now So is the "These tools are game changers and are going to make all work obsolete soon" sentiment Don't start pretending that AI boosters aren't everywhere in tech right now I think the major difference I'm noticing is that many of the Boosters are not people who write any code. They are executives, managers, product owners, team leads, etc. Former Engineers maybe but very often not actively writing software daily

globnomulous 1y ago
> I think the major difference I'm noticing is that many of the Boosters are not people who write any code. Plenty of current, working engineers who frequent and comment on Hacker News say they use LLMs and find them useful/'game changers,' I think. Regardless, I think I agree overall: the key distinction I see is between people who like to read and write programs and people who just want to make some specific product. The former group generally treat LLMs as an unwelcome intrusion into the work they love and value. The latter generally welcome LLMs because the people selling them promise, in essence, that with LLMs you can skip the engineering and just make the product. I'm part of the former group. I love reading code, thinking about it, and working with it. Meeting-based programming (my term for LLM-assisted programming) sounds like hell on earth to me. I'd rather blow my brains out than continue to work as a software engineer in a world where the LLM-booster dream comes true.
- bluefirebrand 1y ago
  > I'd rather blow my brains out than continue to work as a software engineer in a world where the LLM-booster dream comes true. I feel the same way But please don't. I promise I won't either. There is still a place for people like you and me in this world, it's just gonna take a bit more work to find it Deal? :)
  - globnomulous 1y ago
    Sounds good, thanks!
mexicocitinluez 1y ago
> So is the "These tools are game changers and are going to make all work obsolete soon" sentiment Except we aren't talking about those people, are we? The blog post wans't about that. > Don't start pretending that AI boosters aren't everywhere in tech right now PLEASE tell me what I said that made you feel like you need to put words in my mouth. Seriously. > I think the major difference I'm noticing is that many of the Boosters are not people who write any code I write code every day. I just asked Claude to convert a Medicare mandated 30 page assessment to a printable version with CSS using Cottle in C# and it did it. I'd love to know why that sort of thing isn't useful.

globnomulous 1y ago

> I think the major difference I'm noticing is that many of the Boosters are not people who write any code. Plenty of current, working engineers who frequent and comment on Hacker News say they use LLMs and find them useful/'game changers,' I think. Regardless, I think I agree overall: the key distinction I see is between people who like to read and write programs and people who just want to make some specific product. The former group generally treat LLMs as an unwelcome intrusion into the work they love and value. The latter generally welcome LLMs because the people selling them promise, in essence, that with LLMs you can skip the engineering and just make the product. I'm part of the former group. I love reading code, thinking about it, and working with it. Meeting-based programming (my term for LLM-assisted programming) sounds like hell on earth to me. I'd rather blow my brains out than continue to work as a software engineer in a world where the LLM-booster dream comes true.

bluefirebrand 1y ago
> I'd rather blow my brains out than continue to work as a software engineer in a world where the LLM-booster dream comes true. I feel the same way But please don't. I promise I won't either. There is still a place for people like you and me in this world, it's just gonna take a bit more work to find it Deal? :)
- globnomulous 1y ago
  Sounds good, thanks!

mexicocitinluez 1y ago

> So is the "These tools are game changers and are going to make all work obsolete soon" sentiment Except we aren't talking about those people, are we? The blog post wans't about that. > Don't start pretending that AI boosters aren't everywhere in tech right now PLEASE tell me what I said that made you feel like you need to put words in my mouth. Seriously. > I think the major difference I'm noticing is that many of the Boosters are not people who write any code I write code every day. I just asked Claude to convert a Medicare mandated 30 page assessment to a printable version with CSS using Cottle in C# and it did it. I'd love to know why that sort of thing isn't useful.