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I've seen some of these FPV videos of kills of unarmed Russian soldiers. I honestly don't know why the pilots are not prosecuted for war crimes. (and I'm sure

I've seen some of these FPV videos of kills of unarmed Russian soldiers. I honestly don't know why the pilots are not prosecuted for war crimes. (and I'm sure Russia does the same to Ukraine, I just haven't seen those videos).

troupo 1y ago
> I've seen some of these FPV videos of kills of unarmed Russian soldiers. I honestly don't know why the pilots are not prosecuted for war crimes. An enemy combatant doesn't stop being an enemy combatant just because he dropped his weapons. War crime is executing prisoners. And there are a few videos were Russians gleefully murder prisoners
gooseus 1y ago
It's because killing unarmed soldiers during war is not a war crime. Rule 3. All members of the armed forces of a party to the conflict are combatants, except medical and religious personnel. https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule3 https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule3 Rule 47. Attacking persons who are recognized as hors de combat is prohibited. A person hors de combat is: (a) anyone who is in the power of an adverse party; (b) anyone who is defenceless because of unconsciousness, shipwreck, wounds or sickness; or (c) anyone who clearly expresses an intention to surrender; provided he or she abstains from any hostile act and does not attempt to escape https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47 https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47 A surprise drone attack on any Russian combatant that isn't a medic or chaplain is "lawful", even if they aren't holding a weapon at the time.
- gadders 1y ago
  Pretty sure I've seen some that fall under Rule 47.
  - originalvichy 1y ago
    There’s regularly uploaded footage of clearly surrendering soldiers directed towards a safe zone to give up. Propaganda is propaganda, but it happens more often than we might think.
    - gadders 1y ago
      Glad to hear it. I wonder if some "Surrendering to a Drone" protocol couldn't be codified under the Geneva Convention EG "Visibly disassemble your gun, throw the bits in several directions" etc.
nkrisc 1y ago
So if artillery is fired at an enemy position, and they’re unarmed, is that a war crime? Catching an enemy soldier unarmed doesn’t mean you’re a war criminal, it means they made a big mistake. This is war, not a gentleman’s duel.
adolfojp 1y ago
So if I see a drone I just drop my rifle and give it the middle finger and wait for it to go away and then resume when it's gone?
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  People defending their homeland hate this one trick!
exe34 1y ago
Under what law?
TiredOfLife 1y ago
Russia literally executes prisoners of war - those who have already surrendered. Russia castrates, tortures and cuts off heads of live prisoners of war. Russia targets and executes civilians.

troupo 1y ago

> I've seen some of these FPV videos of kills of unarmed Russian soldiers. I honestly don't know why the pilots are not prosecuted for war crimes. An enemy combatant doesn't stop being an enemy combatant just because he dropped his weapons. War crime is executing prisoners. And there are a few videos were Russians gleefully murder prisoners

gooseus 1y ago

It's because killing unarmed soldiers during war is not a war crime. Rule 3. All members of the armed forces of a party to the conflict are combatants, except medical and religious personnel. https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule3 https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule3 Rule 47. Attacking persons who are recognized as hors de combat is prohibited. A person hors de combat is: (a) anyone who is in the power of an adverse party; (b) anyone who is defenceless because of unconsciousness, shipwreck, wounds or sickness; or (c) anyone who clearly expresses an intention to surrender; provided he or she abstains from any hostile act and does not attempt to escape https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47 https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47 A surprise drone attack on any Russian combatant that isn't a medic or chaplain is "lawful", even if they aren't holding a weapon at the time.

gadders 1y ago
Pretty sure I've seen some that fall under Rule 47.
- originalvichy 1y ago
  There’s regularly uploaded footage of clearly surrendering soldiers directed towards a safe zone to give up. Propaganda is propaganda, but it happens more often than we might think.
  - gadders 1y ago
    Glad to hear it. I wonder if some "Surrendering to a Drone" protocol couldn't be codified under the Geneva Convention EG "Visibly disassemble your gun, throw the bits in several directions" etc.

nkrisc 1y ago

So if artillery is fired at an enemy position, and they’re unarmed, is that a war crime? Catching an enemy soldier unarmed doesn’t mean you’re a war criminal, it means they made a big mistake. This is war, not a gentleman’s duel.

adolfojp 1y ago

So if I see a drone I just drop my rifle and give it the middle finger and wait for it to go away and then resume when it's gone?

cosmicgadget 1y ago
People defending their homeland hate this one trick!

exe34 1y ago

Under what law?

TiredOfLife 1y ago

Russia literally executes prisoners of war - those who have already surrendered. Russia castrates, tortures and cuts off heads of live prisoners of war. Russia targets and executes civilians.