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This. Mortar may be 5 times cheaper but 100x easier to destroy it and its crew. Also half of the problems described are purely technical and can be easily sol

This. Mortar may be 5 times cheaper but 100x easier to destroy it and its crew. Also half of the problems described are purely technical and can be easily solved with some budget. In Ukraine most drones are assembled by volunteers. So its not the reliability of drone that is an issue, its lack of proper assembly and QA.

FirmwareBurner 1y ago
>So its not the reliability of drone that is an issue, its lack of proper assembly and QA Imagine what China can pull off here in case they're in a war.
- bboygravity 1y ago
  China's fertility rate is 1. Even if they win the war, they still eventually will have lost.
  - LexGray 1y ago
    China can set the fertility rate to whatever they like. It is tied to taxes and penalties. They can move the slider to make it fiscally impossible to be childless.
    - bboygravity 1y ago
      Sure, they can make it harder to make children. That's easy. Literally every developed country (except Israel) is doing that right now by default. Moving the slider up (MORE children) is the hard part.
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
    Fertility rate is a problem for the future, that you can also solve via better polices and incentives if you want to, meanwhile dying or being enslaved in a war is a problem for right now that you can't escape via policies. Which one you think is worse? Also, most wealthy industrialized western nations have the same fertility issues, some are only compensating by huge legal and ilegal immigration which can be causing bigger domestic economic and societal issues than being involved in a war abroad. The west and its values, as we used to know it, is also dying.
    - bluGill 1y ago
      Fertility rate in China has been less than one for decades. They have a lot of people, but they are heavily weighted to old.
      - pzo 1y ago
        in japan it was even for many decades and its a problem but not tragedy, japan today still doing strong. Even if population in china shrink by 50% they will still have more pole than europe or us. And lets face it shrinking 50% this will really take decades and unlikely to happen since this will correct itself eventually.
        bboygravity 1y ago
        How is Japan still going strong? Have you been there? Real estate just sitting empty, villages deserted, (young) people with no hope for the future, (hidden) poverty, the government and central bank basically bankrupt long-term. Japan is stuck in the 90's with no hope for the future and they will be even less relevant then they are now within 1 generation. Japan is absolutely not "doing strong" for the next 50 years or so and the same will happen to China. If you have no people, you have no future. As simple as that. And how does the fact that it "will still take decades" suddenly make it OK for the country? Also if you shrink a population by 50% within decades it will completely destroy the economy (and military and culture). You can't just half the population that fast and expect things to just carry on as normal or magically recover.
        FirmwareBurner 1y ago
        I think people consider Japan to be doing strong because it's still a safe peaceful society to live in, despite the economic issues. Compared that to living in LA in the world's strongest economy, where it's like you're in a PvP server. So what's the point of having a strong economy if nobody can afford to live and the streets full of shit from homeless people.
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throwawayffffas 1y ago
As noted if you have the budget the end product is a FGM Javelin or a Spike NLOS or as the article mentions a switchblade. These things are pretty much the same thing (a thing that can be carried by a man that accurately puts a warhead on a target) just better and more expensive. edit: Actually the NLOS might not be man portable, but there are other smaller Spike missiles that are.
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FirmwareBurner 1y ago

>So its not the reliability of drone that is an issue, its lack of proper assembly and QA Imagine what China can pull off here in case they're in a war.

bboygravity 1y ago
China's fertility rate is 1. Even if they win the war, they still eventually will have lost.
- LexGray 1y ago
  China can set the fertility rate to whatever they like. It is tied to taxes and penalties. They can move the slider to make it fiscally impossible to be childless.
  - bboygravity 1y ago
    Sure, they can make it harder to make children. That's easy. Literally every developed country (except Israel) is doing that right now by default. Moving the slider up (MORE children) is the hard part.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  Fertility rate is a problem for the future, that you can also solve via better polices and incentives if you want to, meanwhile dying or being enslaved in a war is a problem for right now that you can't escape via policies. Which one you think is worse? Also, most wealthy industrialized western nations have the same fertility issues, some are only compensating by huge legal and ilegal immigration which can be causing bigger domestic economic and societal issues than being involved in a war abroad. The west and its values, as we used to know it, is also dying.
  - bluGill 1y ago
    Fertility rate in China has been less than one for decades. They have a lot of people, but they are heavily weighted to old.
    - pzo 1y ago
      in japan it was even for many decades and its a problem but not tragedy, japan today still doing strong. Even if population in china shrink by 50% they will still have more pole than europe or us. And lets face it shrinking 50% this will really take decades and unlikely to happen since this will correct itself eventually.
      - bboygravity 1y ago
        How is Japan still going strong? Have you been there? Real estate just sitting empty, villages deserted, (young) people with no hope for the future, (hidden) poverty, the government and central bank basically bankrupt long-term. Japan is stuck in the 90's with no hope for the future and they will be even less relevant then they are now within 1 generation. Japan is absolutely not "doing strong" for the next 50 years or so and the same will happen to China. If you have no people, you have no future. As simple as that. And how does the fact that it "will still take decades" suddenly make it OK for the country? Also if you shrink a population by 50% within decades it will completely destroy the economy (and military and culture). You can't just half the population that fast and expect things to just carry on as normal or magically recover.
        FirmwareBurner 1y ago
        I think people consider Japan to be doing strong because it's still a safe peaceful society to live in, despite the economic issues. Compared that to living in LA in the world's strongest economy, where it's like you're in a PvP server. So what's the point of having a strong economy if nobody can afford to live and the streets full of shit from homeless people.
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throwawayffffas 1y ago

As noted if you have the budget the end product is a FGM Javelin or a Spike NLOS or as the article mentions a switchblade. These things are pretty much the same thing (a thing that can be carried by a man that accurately puts a warhead on a target) just better and more expensive. edit: Actually the NLOS might not be man portable, but there are other smaller Spike missiles that are.

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