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are we going back in time? gif should've been gone years ago

DonHopkins 1y ago
They had to wait until there was consensus on how to pronounce it. The IEEE GIF Pronunciation Standard took decades to get through committee!
c16 1y ago
Generally I agree, but there have been some rare occasions where I needed a gif of a screen recording. In that case, finding a nice way to convert was pretty painful, without using any of those online converters.
- oniony 1y ago
  I'd use ImageMagick.
  - Mashimo 1y ago
    or ffmpeg. But having a nice tool on any (windows) computer where you can just press WIN + Shift + S (or PrtSc?) and record a image/video/gif to paste it straight into another app like a chat is very convenient.
wetpaws 1y ago
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izzydata 1y ago
Why? Gifs are by far the most efficiency way to playback micro length video. As in it uses the least amount of processing power due to not being encoded and instead just being a series of images.
- Craighead 1y ago
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- panki27 1y ago
  Indeed - you don't even need to store full frames, sometimes changes are enough. I managed to compress the entirety of the Bad Apple!! video into a 64x32px GIF -taking up 813 KiB.
- pxoe 1y ago
  unefficient*, especially when putting actual video into gif format. most often those gifs are hideous (limited color palette etc) and huge (10+ MB for seconds of video), often either badly optimized (which would only make them look even more crunchy) or not optimized at all. gifs are just straightforwardly worse there (in quality and size). gifs are useful for having some graphics with transparency (if you don't mind crunchy one bit transparency), but there are much better formats (webp/webm, apng, etc) with much better 8-bit transparency too. seriously, people need to give it up and put video in a video format. like h264, which is gonna be widely compatible and likely hardware accelerated. (possibly performing better than huge gifs as well, hw accelerated or not)
  - izzydata 1y ago
    I'm talking about cpu efficiency, not storage space. Video encoding is made to reduce storage at the cost of cpu. But as long as software treats all video formats like a video with the ability to pause and has a seek bar instead of just being an image then there is still a use case for formats like gif. If everything supported apng that would be great, but almost nothing does. Also for some reason every image I save from the net that claims to be an animated webp gets saved as a gif. I'm not sure why that is, but it doesn't seem like it needs to be that way.
    - lousken 1y ago
      h264 was accelerated somewhere around geforce 6 series in 2004
ziml77 1y ago
Seriously, they often look terrible due to the limited palette and the file size blows up very quickly unless you severely constrain the dimensions.
- DonHopkins 1y ago
  I for one, having grown up on 8 bit 1200 baud BBS porn, find error diffusion dithering quite beautiful. Yoot Tower - Every Movie Theater Clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8o7gg87k4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8o7gg87k4 >This is a montage of all of the theater clips from the PC game Yoot Tower, a sequel to Maxis's SimTower that was developed by the same team. These movies would play when you examined a theater location playing said films. SimCity Micropolis Tile Sets Space Inventory Cellular Automata To Jerry Martin's Chill Resolve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=319i7slXcbI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=319i7slXcbI >Chill Resolve by Jerry Martin. Space Inventory performed by Don Hopkins with Micropolis. https://micropolisweb.com/ https://micropolisweb.com/

They had to wait until there was consensus on how to pronounce it. The IEEE GIF Pronunciation Standard took decades to get through committee!

c16 1y ago

Generally I agree, but there have been some rare occasions where I needed a gif of a screen recording. In that case, finding a nice way to convert was pretty painful, without using any of those online converters.

oniony 1y ago
I'd use ImageMagick.
- Mashimo 1y ago
  or ffmpeg. But having a nice tool on any (windows) computer where you can just press WIN + Shift + S (or PrtSc?) and record a image/video/gif to paste it straight into another app like a chat is very convenient.

wetpaws 1y ago

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izzydata 1y ago

Why? Gifs are by far the most efficiency way to playback micro length video. As in it uses the least amount of processing power due to not being encoded and instead just being a series of images.

Craighead 1y ago
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panki27 1y ago
Indeed - you don't even need to store full frames, sometimes changes are enough. I managed to compress the entirety of the Bad Apple!! video into a 64x32px GIF -taking up 813 KiB.
pxoe 1y ago
unefficient*, especially when putting actual video into gif format. most often those gifs are hideous (limited color palette etc) and huge (10+ MB for seconds of video), often either badly optimized (which would only make them look even more crunchy) or not optimized at all. gifs are just straightforwardly worse there (in quality and size). gifs are useful for having some graphics with transparency (if you don't mind crunchy one bit transparency), but there are much better formats (webp/webm, apng, etc) with much better 8-bit transparency too. seriously, people need to give it up and put video in a video format. like h264, which is gonna be widely compatible and likely hardware accelerated. (possibly performing better than huge gifs as well, hw accelerated or not)
- izzydata 1y ago
  I'm talking about cpu efficiency, not storage space. Video encoding is made to reduce storage at the cost of cpu. But as long as software treats all video formats like a video with the ability to pause and has a seek bar instead of just being an image then there is still a use case for formats like gif. If everything supported apng that would be great, but almost nothing does. Also for some reason every image I save from the net that claims to be an animated webp gets saved as a gif. I'm not sure why that is, but it doesn't seem like it needs to be that way.
  - lousken 1y ago
    h264 was accelerated somewhere around geforce 6 series in 2004

ziml77 1y ago

Seriously, they often look terrible due to the limited palette and the file size blows up very quickly unless you severely constrain the dimensions.

DonHopkins 1y ago
I for one, having grown up on 8 bit 1200 baud BBS porn, find error diffusion dithering quite beautiful. Yoot Tower - Every Movie Theater Clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8o7gg87k4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8o7gg87k4 >This is a montage of all of the theater clips from the PC game Yoot Tower, a sequel to Maxis's SimTower that was developed by the same team. These movies would play when you examined a theater location playing said films. SimCity Micropolis Tile Sets Space Inventory Cellular Automata To Jerry Martin's Chill Resolve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=319i7slXcbI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=319i7slXcbI >Chill Resolve by Jerry Martin. Space Inventory performed by Don Hopkins with Micropolis. https://micropolisweb.com/ https://micropolisweb.com/