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You need to compare this to hit rate with mortars and attrition by counter battery fire on mortar teams. Not to detract from a sober assessment but it's hard to
by ggm 1y ago
You need to compare this to hit rate with mortars and attrition by counter battery fire on mortar teams. Not to detract from a sober assessment but it's hard to judge without the other parts of the story.
Thr tldr would be "temper expectations"
- gpderetta 1y agoYes, even a 20% success rate seems quite high.
- palata 1y ago> The vast majority of first-person view drone missions can be completed more cheaply, effectively, or reliably by other assets. At this point, the question becomes the price.
- risyachka 1y agoThis. Mortar may be 5 times cheaper but 100x easier to destroy it and its crew. Also half of the problems described are purely technical and can be easily solved with some budget. In Ukraine most drones are assembled by volunteers. So its not the reliability of drone that is an issue, its lack of proper assembly and QA.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago>So its not the reliability of drone that is an issue, its lack of proper assembly and QA Imagine what China can pull off here in case they're in a war.
- bboygravity 1y agoChina's fertility rate is 1. Even if they win the war, they still eventually will have lost.
- LexGray 1y agoChina can set the fertility rate to whatever they like. It is tied to taxes and penalties. They can move the slider to make it fiscally impossible to be childless.
- bboygravity 1y agoSure, they can make it harder to make children. That's easy. Literally every developed country (except Israel) is doing that right now by default. Moving the slider up (MORE children) is the hard part.
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoFertility rate is a problem for the future, that you can also solve via better polices and incentives if you want to, meanwhile dying or being enslaved in a war is a problem for right now that you can't escape via policies. Which one you think is worse? Also, most wealthy industrialized western nations have the same fertility issues, some are only compensating by huge legal and ilegal immigration which can be causing bigger domestic economic and societal issues than being involved in a war abroad. The west and its values, as we used to know it, is also dying.
- bluGill 1y agoFertility rate in China has been less than one for decades. They have a lot of people, but they are heavily weighted to old.
- pzo 1y agoin japan it was even for many decades and its a problem but not tragedy, japan today still doing strong. Even if population in china shrink by 50% they will still have more pole than europe or us. And lets face it shrinking 50% this will really take decades and unlikely to happen since this will correct itself eventually.
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- throwawayffffas 1y agoAs noted if you have the budget the end product is a FGM Javelin or a Spike NLOS or as the article mentions a switchblade. These things are pretty much the same thing (a thing that can be carried by a man that accurately puts a warhead on a target) just better and more expensive. edit: Actually the NLOS might not be man portable, but there are other smaller Spike missiles that are.
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- throwawayffffas 1y agoI think you need to compare it to other man portable guided weapons like the FGM-148 Javelin. The Javelin is much much better in all respects, except perhaps range. But is about 100 - 200 times more expensive. If you can afford* the Javelins and the TOW's of the world that's what you are going to use otherwise, you are stuck with FPVs. Afford means not only fiscally, but production capacity wise as well.
- sottol 1y agoDoesn't a single javelin missile cost almost 200k? The drones I've seen I'd budget at 150-300$ plus explosives. I think that puts the javelin more at 500-1000x as expensive imo.
- bluGill 1y agoYou need 15 drones to do what a javelin can do though, and that is at best. If the tank armor is good a small drone cannot do any damage (that is why drones try to fly in open hatches - bypass the armor), while a javelin can go through modern armor.
- vasac 1y agoTank armor can be good as it gets, the problem is you can't have good armor everywhere on the tank otherwise it would weight hundreds of tons. So a small drone doesn't need to penetrate tank where it's best protected but to disable it (hit APU, tracks, engine...).
- ashoeafoot 1y agoObvious solution, make the tank amour a drone crawling around and building up in direction of danger?
- throwawayffffas 1y agoThe obvious solution, is duct tape a bunch of corrugated steel around the tank, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_tank