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not forgetting that CCTV is absolutely ubiquitous and high def, where previously it was reasonably rare and low quality

deadbabe 1y ago
And most young people would rather have social media that lets them easily be tracked than staying anonymous for the purposes of committing crimes.
- lupusreal 1y ago
  Even if you leave your phone at home to create an alibi for yourself, it is very likely that CCTVs will see you enroute to the crime scene, if not at the crime scene itself. Between businesses with cameras, front door cameras on houses, and traffic cameras, it's very difficult to travel anywhere without leaving a trace that investigators can pick up after the fact if they're sufficiently motivated.
  - BLKNSLVR 1y ago
    I have a (likely lifelong) mostly-unrealised project to try and document all the things necessary to maximise the anonymity of committing a petty crime, with the vague notion of turning it into a meta-story about the joys of pointless intellectual pursuits that cost far more than they materially return.
    - permo-w 1y ago
      wi-fi/phone signal jammer would have to be included. most cctv operates wirelessly over wi-fi and no one is phoning the police with their phone signal jammed
3eb7988a1663 1y ago
I am doubtful widespread recordings are making much of a change. Unless you are Luigi Mangione, are police actually following video footage trying to tie up a crime? Even with a city wide alert, he almost escaped. It has been a common refrain that someone has an AirTag or other electronic surveillance they used to identify a thief, for which the police do nothing.
- qingcharles 1y ago
  They actually do use the footage in a lot of cases. Bigger cities often have staff dedicated to just trying to extract raw footage from Temu-quality CCTV recording devices that most places own.
- permo-w 1y ago
  there's a major difference between an AirTag or tracking or some other form of relatively complex new-fangled technology that can be easily made to seem confusing or unreliable or even just inadmissible to a judge or jury, and high definition video evidence. if you're in a public place and there are a hundred video cameras, you're obviously going to be less inclined to do something illegal. this particularly being true for violent mob/gang activity

And most young people would rather have social media that lets them easily be tracked than staying anonymous for the purposes of committing crimes.

lupusreal 1y ago
Even if you leave your phone at home to create an alibi for yourself, it is very likely that CCTVs will see you enroute to the crime scene, if not at the crime scene itself. Between businesses with cameras, front door cameras on houses, and traffic cameras, it's very difficult to travel anywhere without leaving a trace that investigators can pick up after the fact if they're sufficiently motivated.
- BLKNSLVR 1y ago
  I have a (likely lifelong) mostly-unrealised project to try and document all the things necessary to maximise the anonymity of committing a petty crime, with the vague notion of turning it into a meta-story about the joys of pointless intellectual pursuits that cost far more than they materially return.
  - permo-w 1y ago
    wi-fi/phone signal jammer would have to be included. most cctv operates wirelessly over wi-fi and no one is phoning the police with their phone signal jammed

3eb7988a1663 1y ago

I am doubtful widespread recordings are making much of a change. Unless you are Luigi Mangione, are police actually following video footage trying to tie up a crime? Even with a city wide alert, he almost escaped. It has been a common refrain that someone has an AirTag or other electronic surveillance they used to identify a thief, for which the police do nothing.

qingcharles 1y ago
They actually do use the footage in a lot of cases. Bigger cities often have staff dedicated to just trying to extract raw footage from Temu-quality CCTV recording devices that most places own.
permo-w 1y ago
there's a major difference between an AirTag or tracking or some other form of relatively complex new-fangled technology that can be easily made to seem confusing or unreliable or even just inadmissible to a judge or jury, and high definition video evidence. if you're in a public place and there are a hundred video cameras, you're obviously going to be less inclined to do something illegal. this particularly being true for violent mob/gang activity