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I'm still salty about the lack of DisplayPort adoption by manufacturers. I have a new video card with DP 2.1 and new monitor (2025) with only DP 1.4. I'm forc

by snarfy 1y ago

I'm still salty about the lack of DisplayPort adoption by manufacturers. I have a new video card with DP 2.1 and new monitor (2025) with only DP 1.4. I'm forced to use hdmi if I want full bandwidth without dsc. A 2025 monitor with DP 1.4 from 2016. Shame.

simoncion 1y ago
> A 2025 monitor with DP 1.4 from 2016. Shame. Sure, that's fuckin stupid... if HBR3 can't handle the monitor's native resolution, refresh rate, and bit depth. But, on the gripping hand (and with the greatest of respect) why the hell did you buy the crappy thing? There are many DP 2 monitors out there. This is a little glib... but if someone's selling something that's bad, don't buy it. The dire video card and monitor situation has kicked me off of my regular upgrade cycle for at least five years. I'm not happy about it, but it's better than getting something that's not fit for purpose (and signaling to the manufacturers that it's okay to manufacture unfit products).
- nfriedly 1y ago
  > There are many DP 2 monitors out there. That feels like a bit of a stretch. There are a handful of options now, but most were released within the past year[1] and have only recently become available for purchase, and most of these are ~$1k or higher[2]. The cheapest one I could find right now is $714, but it's only 1440p (and 480hz - Sony INZONE M10S[3]). If snarfy needed something before then, and/or didn't have a huge budget to devote to a monitor, you can't really blame them. You can get a perfectly serviceable 4k 160hz monitor with DP 1.4 for ~$300 right now[4], and that makes a lot more sense for most people. Monitor manufacturers are generally stingy with DP ports, often including more HDMI ports, even when they can't support the full resolution and refresh rate of the monitor. It is frustrating. [1]: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/171238 https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/171238 [2]: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=601469993%20601420164%20601438011%20601423804%20101702297 https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=601469993%20601420164%20601438... [3]: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D9R7HCVG https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D9R7HCVG [4]: https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Monitor-3840x2160-160Hz-FreeSync-Premium/dp/B0DKTWXTW8 https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Monitor-3840x2160-160Hz-Free...
  - simoncion 1y ago
    > There are a handful of options now, but most were released within the past year[1] and have only recently become available for purchase... You appear to have missed this part of snarfly's post: > A 2025 monitor with DP 1.4 from 2016. Shame. Had snarfly not purchased that monitor within the past year, I would not have said what I said. I would have something that taken into account the state of available monitors at that point in time.
- snarfy 1y ago
  It's not crappy, other than that connector. For the curious - https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-swift-oled-pg32ucdp/ https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-swift...
  - simoncion 1y ago
    IMO, if you can't get the full capabilities of a PC monitor on all of its input ports, then it's crap. People have differing opinions on what's crap, and that's okay.
karmakaze 1y ago
As far as I'm concerned HDMI is for (mainstream) TVs, DisplayPort is for computers and higher end uses. I will use DP rather than HDMI every chance I get, and make product selection decisions based on it.
craftkiller 1y ago
I have been waiting for displayport 2.0 for 5 years. It was supposed to be in products 2020 [0]. Then it got pushed back. Then it got renamed to displayport 2.1, but they split it out into uhbr10, uhbr13.5, and ubhr20. So now they're selling "displayport 2.1" monitors with barely more bandwidth than displayport 1.4. It has been 5 years and I'm still waiting for 80gbps displayport under whatever name. [0] https://www.unigraf.fi/resource/introducing-displayport-2-0/ https://www.unigraf.fi/resource/introducing-displayport-2-0/

by snarfy 1y ago

simoncion 1y ago

> A 2025 monitor with DP 1.4 from 2016. Shame. Sure, that's fuckin stupid... if HBR3 can't handle the monitor's native resolution, refresh rate, and bit depth. But, on the gripping hand (and with the greatest of respect) why the hell did you buy the crappy thing? There are many DP 2 monitors out there. This is a little glib... but if someone's selling something that's bad, don't buy it. The dire video card and monitor situation has kicked me off of my regular upgrade cycle for at least five years. I'm not happy about it, but it's better than getting something that's not fit for purpose (and signaling to the manufacturers that it's okay to manufacture unfit products).

nfriedly 1y ago
> There are many DP 2 monitors out there. That feels like a bit of a stretch. There are a handful of options now, but most were released within the past year[1] and have only recently become available for purchase, and most of these are ~$1k or higher[2]. The cheapest one I could find right now is $714, but it's only 1440p (and 480hz - Sony INZONE M10S[3]). If snarfy needed something before then, and/or didn't have a huge budget to devote to a monitor, you can't really blame them. You can get a perfectly serviceable 4k 160hz monitor with DP 1.4 for ~$300 right now[4], and that makes a lot more sense for most people. Monitor manufacturers are generally stingy with DP ports, often including more HDMI ports, even when they can't support the full resolution and refresh rate of the monitor. It is frustrating. [1]: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/171238 https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/171238 [2]: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=601469993%20601420164%20601438011%20601423804%20101702297 https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=601469993%20601420164%20601438... [3]: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D9R7HCVG https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D9R7HCVG [4]: https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Monitor-3840x2160-160Hz-FreeSync-Premium/dp/B0DKTWXTW8 https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Monitor-3840x2160-160Hz-Free...
- simoncion 1y ago
  > There are a handful of options now, but most were released within the past year[1] and have only recently become available for purchase... You appear to have missed this part of snarfly's post: > A 2025 monitor with DP 1.4 from 2016. Shame. Had snarfly not purchased that monitor within the past year, I would not have said what I said. I would have something that taken into account the state of available monitors at that point in time.
snarfy 1y ago
It's not crappy, other than that connector. For the curious - https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-swift-oled-pg32ucdp/ https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-swift...
- simoncion 1y ago
  IMO, if you can't get the full capabilities of a PC monitor on all of its input ports, then it's crap. People have differing opinions on what's crap, and that's okay.

karmakaze 1y ago

As far as I'm concerned HDMI is for (mainstream) TVs, DisplayPort is for computers and higher end uses. I will use DP rather than HDMI every chance I get, and make product selection decisions based on it.

craftkiller 1y ago

I have been waiting for displayport 2.0 for 5 years. It was supposed to be in products 2020 [0]. Then it got pushed back. Then it got renamed to displayport 2.1, but they split it out into uhbr10, uhbr13.5, and ubhr20. So now they're selling "displayport 2.1" monitors with barely more bandwidth than displayport 1.4. It has been 5 years and I'm still waiting for 80gbps displayport under whatever name. [0] https://www.unigraf.fi/resource/introducing-displayport-2-0/ https://www.unigraf.fi/resource/introducing-displayport-2-0/