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NSF getting kicked out of headquarters by HUD

65 points by trauco 1y ago

_joel 1y ago
https://archive.ph/eZg3g https://archive.ph/eZg3g
FirmwareBurner 1y ago
Why the clickbait title? The article is called "HUD Plans to Move Operations From Washington to Virginia"
- deleted 1y ago
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- suddenlybananas 1y ago
  Because the more relevant part to most people is the fact that the NSF is being kicked out. Scientific American reported on it this way. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-administration-ousts-national-science-foundation-from-headquarters/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-administrat...
- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y ago
  https://www.alxnow.com/2025/06/24/report-national-science-foundation-headquarters-to-be-taken-over-by-hud-displacing-1800-employees/ https://www.alxnow.com/2025/06/24/report-national-science-fo...
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  The article's title is a bit like describing WWII as "many Germans resettling in Poland".
- palmfacehn 1y ago
  [insert event], partisan politics and why we should all be outraged. Regardless of title, I'm not sure why the post is here at all.
oldpersonintx2 1y ago
good! just demolish their old HQ in L'Enfant Plaza, all of which is a national embarrassment of cheap, demoralizing, poorly-rendered wannabe brutalism and shitty 80s dead-tech modern
mtalantikite 1y ago
Years ago I read about how Norway was redistributing agencies out of Oslo and into other cities across the country. This felt like it made intuitive sense, as you'd maybe get to distribute jobs to other localities and break up the concentration of bureaucracy. I haven't read about the outcomes, but I've always wondered what could happen if the DC area did the same.
- oldpersonintx2 1y ago
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- bachmeier 1y ago
  I'm not sure the current status, but during Trump I, they moved USDA research from Washington, DC to Kansas City.
  - xeromal 1y ago
    Doesn't seem like a bad place to move it to!
    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963207129/usda-research-agencies-decimated-by-forced-move-undoing-the-damage-wont-be-easy https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963207129/usda-research-agenc... > She says that more than half of agency employees decided to quit rather than uproot their families and move. Despite aggressive recruiting in Kansas City and making many new hires, both USDA research agencies are now roughly half the size they were before the move. (As intended, of course.)
    - bilbo0s 1y ago
      It's a horrible place to move it to. If we make moves, Ok. How about this.. We move these agencies to get adversarial impulses going in service of cost control. We move the USDA to the middle of New York City. Urban Development to Tomah Wisconsin. (I'll settle for Nacogdoches Texas just to make sure the South gets some of these HQ's). Department of the Interior should be moved to Miami Fl. Department of Defense to Berkeley California. And so on and so forth. All should be legally obliged to hire only locals in civilian roles. Having the USDA in Kansas City guarantees the tax payer gets robbed blind.
njarboe 1y ago
So are the NSF employees going to share the building? The article doesn't say.
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econ 1y ago
I envision a tent city, tents to live, tents to work, executive party tents etc
vaadu 1y ago
Bloomberg article is terrible. Why is HUD moving? From foxnews: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hud-becomes-first-major-cabinet-agency-exit-dc-citing-failing-hq-which-doge-wants-sell https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hud-becomes-first-major-cab... "The Robert C. Weaver Building is a vacant and run-down monument to waste with half a billion dollars in overdue maintenance," Ernst said, calling it a "cross between a ghost town and a horror show." Investments to-date in the Weaver building totaled $90 million over the past 15 years, including plaza, roof and façade repairs. Mold and asbestos containment have plagued the building, which also has only about half of its elevators in working operation. I live in NOVA. The economies around here are addicted to government spending. As a federal taxpayer I think they should move many federal agencies to other states. USDA to KC was a start. Agriculture to Iowa, DOEnergy to Texas, NASA to Florida, Interior to Colorado for starters The DC area doesn't have a right to these overpaid jobs.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  I'm skeptical that the US Government can't manage to renovate a building. That said, I've no deep concern with HUD moving. The larger story here is the NSF's displacement; coupled with the grant revocations and the proposed slashing of their budget, this seems more a story of "they want to get rid of NSF" than "they want to move HUD".

65 points by trauco 1y ago

_joel 1y ago

https://archive.ph/eZg3g https://archive.ph/eZg3g

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

Why the clickbait title? The article is called "HUD Plans to Move Operations From Washington to Virginia"

deleted 1y ago
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suddenlybananas 1y ago
Because the more relevant part to most people is the fact that the NSF is being kicked out. Scientific American reported on it this way. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-administration-ousts-national-science-foundation-from-headquarters/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-administrat...
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y ago
https://www.alxnow.com/2025/06/24/report-national-science-foundation-headquarters-to-be-taken-over-by-hud-displacing-1800-employees/ https://www.alxnow.com/2025/06/24/report-national-science-fo...
ceejayoz 1y ago
The article's title is a bit like describing WWII as "many Germans resettling in Poland".
palmfacehn 1y ago
[insert event], partisan politics and why we should all be outraged. Regardless of title, I'm not sure why the post is here at all.

oldpersonintx2 1y ago

good! just demolish their old HQ in L'Enfant Plaza, all of which is a national embarrassment of cheap, demoralizing, poorly-rendered wannabe brutalism and shitty 80s dead-tech modern

mtalantikite 1y ago

Years ago I read about how Norway was redistributing agencies out of Oslo and into other cities across the country. This felt like it made intuitive sense, as you'd maybe get to distribute jobs to other localities and break up the concentration of bureaucracy. I haven't read about the outcomes, but I've always wondered what could happen if the DC area did the same.

oldpersonintx2 1y ago
[dead]
bachmeier 1y ago
I'm not sure the current status, but during Trump I, they moved USDA research from Washington, DC to Kansas City.
- xeromal 1y ago
  Doesn't seem like a bad place to move it to!
  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963207129/usda-research-agencies-decimated-by-forced-move-undoing-the-damage-wont-be-easy https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963207129/usda-research-agenc... > She says that more than half of agency employees decided to quit rather than uproot their families and move. Despite aggressive recruiting in Kansas City and making many new hires, both USDA research agencies are now roughly half the size they were before the move. (As intended, of course.)
  - bilbo0s 1y ago
    It's a horrible place to move it to. If we make moves, Ok. How about this.. We move these agencies to get adversarial impulses going in service of cost control. We move the USDA to the middle of New York City. Urban Development to Tomah Wisconsin. (I'll settle for Nacogdoches Texas just to make sure the South gets some of these HQ's). Department of the Interior should be moved to Miami Fl. Department of Defense to Berkeley California. And so on and so forth. All should be legally obliged to hire only locals in civilian roles. Having the USDA in Kansas City guarantees the tax payer gets robbed blind.

njarboe 1y ago

So are the NSF employees going to share the building? The article doesn't say.

deleted 1y ago

[deleted]

econ 1y ago

I envision a tent city, tents to live, tents to work, executive party tents etc

vaadu 1y ago

Bloomberg article is terrible. Why is HUD moving? From foxnews: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hud-becomes-first-major-cabinet-agency-exit-dc-citing-failing-hq-which-doge-wants-sell https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hud-becomes-first-major-cab... "The Robert C. Weaver Building is a vacant and run-down monument to waste with half a billion dollars in overdue maintenance," Ernst said, calling it a "cross between a ghost town and a horror show." Investments to-date in the Weaver building totaled $90 million over the past 15 years, including plaza, roof and façade repairs. Mold and asbestos containment have plagued the building, which also has only about half of its elevators in working operation. I live in NOVA. The economies around here are addicted to government spending. As a federal taxpayer I think they should move many federal agencies to other states. USDA to KC was a start. Agriculture to Iowa, DOEnergy to Texas, NASA to Florida, Interior to Colorado for starters The DC area doesn't have a right to these overpaid jobs.

ceejayoz 1y ago
I'm skeptical that the US Government can't manage to renovate a building. That said, I've no deep concern with HUD moving. The larger story here is the NSF's displacement; coupled with the grant revocations and the proposed slashing of their budget, this seems more a story of "they want to get rid of NSF" than "they want to move HUD".