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> one should always consider is whether the consumer needs to pay more That makes sense in the traditional/American viewpoint of aiming to maximize profits, or

by diggan 1y ago

> one should always consider is whether the consumer needs to pay more That makes sense in the traditional/American viewpoint of aiming to maximize profits, or however it goes. But Sourcehut seems to take a different viewpoint than that, with a big focus on 100% FOSS, then Europe obviously makes much more sense than the US, even if there is a non-zero amount of hours involved with the migration. And with the FOSS perspective, the move vice-versa wouldn't make much sense at all.

oaiey 1y ago
upvote to both of you. both points are valid and both perspectives are fine.
hiAndrewQuinn 1y ago
Europe doesn't "obviously" make much more sense than anywhere else for FOSS. I know of no law in the US that says e.g. you can't license software under BSD-3 without a notarization or whatever. More importantly, the comparison you are drawing equates the "American viewpoint" of aiming to maximize profits directly to the goal of aiming to minimize cost to the end consumer. As in: "Yeah, our customers have to pay $30 instead of $20 a year now that we're EU-based, but so what? We're not in it to maximize profits." Excuse me?
- diggan 1y ago
  > Europe doesn't "obviously" make much more sense than anywhere else for FOSS. I know of no law in the US that It's not about laws, but about the community. If you're building a community and organization that is 100% about serving a specific community (in this case FOSS), then it makes sense to be wherever that community is strongest and healthiest, so in this case Europe. Regardless of laws. > As in: "Yeah, our customers have to pay $30 instead of $20 a year now that we're EU-based, but so what? We're not in it to maximize profits." Excuse me? That's you're still thinking in terms of "customers" and charging people higher/lower just makes it more obvious how Americans are constantly focused on profits and money. I don't see how that made up argument is even applicable here, care to explain without any more contrived examples?

by diggan 1y ago

oaiey 1y ago

upvote to both of you. both points are valid and both perspectives are fine.

hiAndrewQuinn 1y ago

Europe doesn't "obviously" make much more sense than anywhere else for FOSS. I know of no law in the US that says e.g. you can't license software under BSD-3 without a notarization or whatever. More importantly, the comparison you are drawing equates the "American viewpoint" of aiming to maximize profits directly to the goal of aiming to minimize cost to the end consumer. As in: "Yeah, our customers have to pay $30 instead of $20 a year now that we're EU-based, but so what? We're not in it to maximize profits." Excuse me?

diggan 1y ago
> Europe doesn't "obviously" make much more sense than anywhere else for FOSS. I know of no law in the US that It's not about laws, but about the community. If you're building a community and organization that is 100% about serving a specific community (in this case FOSS), then it makes sense to be wherever that community is strongest and healthiest, so in this case Europe. Regardless of laws. > As in: "Yeah, our customers have to pay $30 instead of $20 a year now that we're EU-based, but so what? We're not in it to maximize profits." Excuse me? That's you're still thinking in terms of "customers" and charging people higher/lower just makes it more obvious how Americans are constantly focused on profits and money. I don't see how that made up argument is even applicable here, care to explain without any more contrived examples?