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I’m pretty sure I would move to a city anywhere in the world based primarily on the availability of high quality 24 hour third places.
by sneak 1y ago
I’m pretty sure I would move to a city anywhere in the world based primarily on the availability of high quality 24 hour third places.
- the_real_cher 1y agoHell yeah same. Where though? West coast and Gulf Coast where Ive lived have very few.
- dghlsakjg 1y agoLook near universities and in the weird/artsy neighborhoods.
- Axsuul 1y agoKtown in LA has a few
- the_real_cher 1y agoI've been to one out there but it was crowded as hell all hours of the night because theres so few late night coffee shops in LA.
- ghaff 1y agoI question how many people would want to hang in 24-hour third spaces beyond spaces that are open to some reasonably late evening hour.
- dghlsakjg 1y agoNot many. But the existence of them in a place points towards a certain culture. You see them not necessarily in places like wall street, but more in places with strong intellectual culture like universities and artsy neighborhoods. I can use the existence of a country club as a useful signal about a place without being a member, or having any interest in it.
- walterbell 1y ago> points towards a certain culture Also points towards local labor law and market.
- dghlsakjg 1y agoWhat do you mean? I’m not sure the implication is obvious
- walterbell 1y agoLabor law may constrain working hours. In some countries, low cost of human labor enables staffing of low-volume businesses, including opening hours with low traffic.
- sneak 1y agoGo to some clubs in Berlin sometime :)
- y-curious 1y agoWith an American-centric view, how do you deal with homeless people using them as shelter? Like, Korea/Japan have those cheap gaming booths, but that would never work in America because of the aforementioned issue. The want would be an exclusive third place that has the people you'd want to meet with.
- sneak 1y agoThird place doesn’t mean free. Churches and bars (the existing American third places) seem to have mechanisms for addressing this presently.
- Nasrudith 1y agoSome churches see providing shelter for the homeless as an outright feature instead of a bug to correct. Sadly they tend to face backlash from neighbors for this. I know of one pastor who had a rather sad career trajectory from trying to do the right thing in setting up a homeless shelter at a church. The whole negative reception she received for being the only one doing the right thing was downright sick.
- ericmay 1y ago> With an American-centric view, how do you deal with homeless people using them as shelter? I don't think it's a concern, first of all. Second, store owners will kick out non-paying customers as they have since time immemorial. You might as well ask how someone deals with pan handlers at the intersection on the way to their drive-through Starbucks. If the person is just sitting in a corner not bothering anyone, maybe someone will buy them a coffee, or maybe they'll be annoyed that it's too loud and leave, or perhaps they just look homeless but they're just mistaken for your run of the mill startup founder? There are also lots of homeless people in other parts of the world. How do people in Paris or London deal with them? I don't understand why this exists an American-centric view here for such a general concern. Homelessness isn't unique to the United States, yet virtually every country on the planet has coffee shops you can walk into.
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