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So it's ok as long as it's quiet?

archagon 1y ago
As far as I can tell, the BYD CEO is not actively trying to influence global politics to make life miserable for me and my friends.
- msgodel 1y ago
  Nearly every American tech company actively started going after "White people" (which is just another name for Europeans) both with political PR and with actual actions and that didn't seem to effect their European sales so that's probably not it.
  - archagon 1y ago
    Occam's razor: your premise is false. Nobody feels aggrieved by these purported actions except far-right pundits and those trapped in their propaganda web. (And I say this as a white person.) In contrast, Musk said that people I care about were part of the "parasite class" and chuckled about cutting their benefits. Fuck that.
    - msgodel 1y ago
      How is that Occam's razor? Also that's a little bold of you to speak for rest of us that way.
  - mcv 1y ago
    What do you mean by "go after white people"? They go after everybody. American tech companies plaster every corner of the internet with whatever they're trying to sell or own. And if you want to boycott them, I'm all for that. I don't buy from Amazon or Microsoft either. There are alternatives to Google. It's true that they've made enormous inroads into Europe in recent years, but now that they all seem to support America's increasing turn towards fascism, you will also see Europe slowly move away from them. But abandoning the cloud infrastructure that you just invested millions in, is a lot harder than buying a different car, so the change is slower.
ben_w 1y ago
"Ok" is the wrong word for this. Put it this way: do you yourself boycott companies, specifically because of those companies supporting things you don't know they support?
mcv 1y ago
You're missing the point here. It's not okay, it's less known, as long as it's quiet. Musk is going out of his way to generate a lot of bad PR for himself. Do you really expect that to have no effect?

As far as I can tell, the BYD CEO is not actively trying to influence global politics to make life miserable for me and my friends.

msgodel 1y ago
Nearly every American tech company actively started going after "White people" (which is just another name for Europeans) both with political PR and with actual actions and that didn't seem to effect their European sales so that's probably not it.
- archagon 1y ago
  Occam's razor: your premise is false. Nobody feels aggrieved by these purported actions except far-right pundits and those trapped in their propaganda web. (And I say this as a white person.) In contrast, Musk said that people I care about were part of the "parasite class" and chuckled about cutting their benefits. Fuck that.
  - msgodel 1y ago
    How is that Occam's razor? Also that's a little bold of you to speak for rest of us that way.
- mcv 1y ago
  What do you mean by "go after white people"? They go after everybody. American tech companies plaster every corner of the internet with whatever they're trying to sell or own. And if you want to boycott them, I'm all for that. I don't buy from Amazon or Microsoft either. There are alternatives to Google. It's true that they've made enormous inroads into Europe in recent years, but now that they all seem to support America's increasing turn towards fascism, you will also see Europe slowly move away from them. But abandoning the cloud infrastructure that you just invested millions in, is a lot harder than buying a different car, so the change is slower.

ben_w 1y ago

"Ok" is the wrong word for this. Put it this way: do you yourself boycott companies, specifically because of those companies supporting things you don't know they support?

mcv 1y ago

You're missing the point here. It's not okay, it's less known, as long as it's quiet. Musk is going out of his way to generate a lot of bad PR for himself. Do you really expect that to have no effect?