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I thought that had been discounted, as with many of the Blue Zone studies. Due to birth records being lost in war time bombing, I just need to find a citation

I thought that had been discounted, as with many of the Blue Zone studies. Due to birth records being lost in war time bombing, I just need to find a citation to support this beyond that of a few podcasts. Værsgo: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/ioe/news/2024/sep/ucl-demographers-work-debunking-blue-zone-regions-exceptional-lifespans-wins-ig-nobel-prize https://www.ucl.ac.uk/ioe/news/2024/sep/ucl-demographers-wor... https://theconversation.com/the-data-on-extreme-human-ageing-is-rotten-from-the-inside-out-ig-nobel-winner-saul-justin-newman-239023 https://theconversation.com/the-data-on-extreme-human-ageing... Discussed here 9 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41597415 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41597415 Reddit discussion seems to tackle this research more critically: https://old.reddit.com/r/longevity/comments/1fhcfvu/the_data_on_extreme_human_ageing_is_rotten_from/ https://old.reddit.com/r/longevity/comments/1fhcfvu/the_data...

UncleMeat 1y ago
The blue zone debunking was done by somebody outside of this field of study. The actual researchers who did the on the ground work to verify ages aren't so foolish as to just blanket ignore this sort of thing. Verification is more complex than "ask Bob how old he is and write it down." "Blue zones as health miracle" is overstated. "Blue zones as simple fraud" is overstated.
- tim333 1y ago
  >Okinawa in Japan is one of these zones. There was a Japanese government review in 2010, which found that 82% of the people aged over 100 in Japan turned out to be dead. The secret to living to 110 was, don’t register your death. (conversation article) sounds fairly fraudy.
  - UncleMeat 1y ago
    None of the blue zones from the actual research are cities this large. And the researchers that identified the blue zones did not get their data from government census information.

UncleMeat 1y ago

The blue zone debunking was done by somebody outside of this field of study. The actual researchers who did the on the ground work to verify ages aren't so foolish as to just blanket ignore this sort of thing. Verification is more complex than "ask Bob how old he is and write it down." "Blue zones as health miracle" is overstated. "Blue zones as simple fraud" is overstated.

tim333 1y ago
>Okinawa in Japan is one of these zones. There was a Japanese government review in 2010, which found that 82% of the people aged over 100 in Japan turned out to be dead. The secret to living to 110 was, don’t register your death. (conversation article) sounds fairly fraudy.
- UncleMeat 1y ago
  None of the blue zones from the actual research are cities this large. And the researchers that identified the blue zones did not get their data from government census information.