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>"Tourist jailed without trial for possessing political cartoon" Jail almost by definition means pretrial detention, so "jailed without trial" is a tautology.
by gruez 1y ago
>"Tourist jailed without trial for possessing political cartoon"
Jail almost by definition means pretrial detention, so "jailed without trial" is a tautology.
- anigbrowl 1y agoNot in the United States. Jails are operated by cities or counties and people can be incarcerated for up to a year in jail. Prisons are operated by the state and house people convicted of felonies (sentence >1 year).
- eesmith 1y agoJail can be used for post-conviction confinement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison#United_States > A jail holds people for shorter periods of time (for example, less than a year) or for pre-trial detention and is usually operated by a local government, typically the county sheriff. > A prison or penitentiary holds people for longer periods of time, such as many years, and is operated by a state or federal government. After a conviction, a sentenced person is sent to prison. Here's an example of it used that way in Virginia's laws, at https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter1/section18.2-11/ https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter1/secti... > The authorized punishments for conviction of a misdemeanor are: > (a) For Class 1 misdemeanors, confinement in jail for not more than twelve months and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both.
- guappa 1y agoMost people who are not from USA do not make any distinction between jail and prison. Nitpicking about the precise legal terminology is a bit pointless in this context.
- gruez 1y agoIt's not really nitpicking because any sort of pretrial detention is technically "jailed without trial", and pretrial detention isn't some sort of tool only used by fascist regimes. So far as I can tell, he was pulled aside for further questioning and ultimately refused entry, but the authorities didn't go out of their way to detain him for longer than necessary. No, I'm not excusing the government's behavior. Refusing someone entry for possessing a political cartoon is still bad, but "jailed without trial" is just inflammatory wording. If some protester got arrested for protesting, the reasonable thing to do is to call it just that, not "protester jailed without trial for protesting".
- tekknik 1y agoEven your definition seems overly broad, as being arrested is pretrial detention and only requires a spoken word from the officer.