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He was placed in a cell before they found the Vance image. He also said the border guard didn’t like that image or an image of him with a wooden pipe. I don’t

He was placed in a cell before they found the Vance image. He also said the border guard didn’t like that image or an image of him with a wooden pipe. I don’t doubt that it’s possible he was denied because of the Vance image and that in itself says something terrible about the current state of affairs. But I think it’s more likely that he was stopped based on some other red flag like not having a return ticket and denied because of that.

SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
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- sarchertech 1y ago
  When I say it’s possible, I don’t think that it’s the official CBP policy, but I have had enough interactions with power tripping cops to believe that it’s possible that the kid was disrespectful to the wrong guy. Customs agents have wide latitude in determining who can enter, and I could see a situation where an already angry agent saw the Vance thing, got even angrier and said you’re outta here.
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    Sure, maybe. But there’s clearly an entire other side of the story along with the Norwegian government warning other travelers, they must have their documents on them.
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - account42 1y ago
    The situation could certainly have been escalated by a single officer in a bad mood but there must have been some flag that caused him to be pulled aside in the first place. That doesn't mean there was any real wrong doing on the part of the guy but with many of other similar claims against the US border agents mistreating EU citizens you do see some reason why they might have been spooked if you dig a little deeper. E.g. anything that could give CBP the idea that you intend to seek work in the US is just asking for trouble. Edit: It was drug use according to CPB: https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444 https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444
    - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
      Who possibly could have seen that edit coming? Not the hundreds of “highly intelligent and immune to manipulation” HackerNews readers apparently.
- solid_fuel 1y ago
  Don't make excuses for this abuse. The administration now in power in the US has been very clear - they oppose free speech and do not respect the constitution or Bill of Rights.
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    How are you so certain it’s abuse? How are you even certain the story happened? Why would you be any degree of certain that it happened the way that this angry Norwegian is saying it happened? How would you have any idea you’re being manipulated or not? Would you care if it entirely aligned with your presumptions and preferences?
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    Wow, what an amazing surprise! https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444 https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444
q1w2 1y ago
Important to note that the only source of information we have right now is the deported person's account of events. He does say he was detained PRIOR to the picture being found. Being detained if far more relevant than being asked about a photo. It's also important to note that Border Control will not tell you WHY you're being denied entry, so the person ascribing it to the meme is speculating based on being asked about it.

SV_BubbleTime 1y ago

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sarchertech 1y ago
When I say it’s possible, I don’t think that it’s the official CBP policy, but I have had enough interactions with power tripping cops to believe that it’s possible that the kid was disrespectful to the wrong guy. Customs agents have wide latitude in determining who can enter, and I could see a situation where an already angry agent saw the Vance thing, got even angrier and said you’re outta here.
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  Sure, maybe. But there’s clearly an entire other side of the story along with the Norwegian government warning other travelers, they must have their documents on them.
- deleted 1y ago
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- account42 1y ago
  The situation could certainly have been escalated by a single officer in a bad mood but there must have been some flag that caused him to be pulled aside in the first place. That doesn't mean there was any real wrong doing on the part of the guy but with many of other similar claims against the US border agents mistreating EU citizens you do see some reason why they might have been spooked if you dig a little deeper. E.g. anything that could give CBP the idea that you intend to seek work in the US is just asking for trouble. Edit: It was drug use according to CPB: https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444 https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    Who possibly could have seen that edit coming? Not the hundreds of “highly intelligent and immune to manipulation” HackerNews readers apparently.
solid_fuel 1y ago
Don't make excuses for this abuse. The administration now in power in the US has been very clear - they oppose free speech and do not respect the constitution or Bill of Rights.
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  How are you so certain it’s abuse? How are you even certain the story happened? Why would you be any degree of certain that it happened the way that this angry Norwegian is saying it happened? How would you have any idea you’re being manipulated or not? Would you care if it entirely aligned with your presumptions and preferences?
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  Wow, what an amazing surprise! https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444 https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444

q1w2 1y ago

Important to note that the only source of information we have right now is the deported person's account of events. He does say he was detained PRIOR to the picture being found. Being detained if far more relevant than being asked about a photo. It's also important to note that Border Control will not tell you WHY you're being denied entry, so the person ascribing it to the meme is speculating based on being asked about it.