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Nvidia's RTX 5050 GPU starts at $249 with last-gen GDDR6 VRAM
- gs17 1y agoAnd it's 8GB of last-gen GDDR6 video memory, the exact same as the $249 RTX 3050 from three years ago (same number of CUDA cores too). Technically with inflation that's more per dollar, I guess, but that's not super appealing.
- bigyabai 1y agoIf you're using less memory, it kinda stands to reason that you can get more mileage out of less bandwidth. I'd be really upset if this was a 16gb or 24gb card, but we've been using GDDR6 for 8gb cards without issues for years now. I agree that it's not super appealing, but Team Green has to hit the low price points somehow. This feels more like a hedged bet against Intel trying to muscle their way back into the budget market.
- ryao 1y agoAMD uses GDDR6 on their current generation cards: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c422... Intel does too.
- pama 1y agoThe performance figure in the link clearly says that it it’s a significant improvement to the 3050.
- cogman10 1y agoThis is creative marketing from nVidia. Notice the "With DLSS 4". That's AI frame hallucination which the 5050 has. Without the DLSS, the numbers from independent reviewers has basically been exactly on par with the previous generations (about 10% increase in performance).
- sidewndr46 1y agoThe charts are from the Verge, not exactly known for their integrity in regards to anything. It's also with DLSS on, so you could just as easily have the framerate be 100 FPS, 1000 FPS, or 10000 FPS. The GPU doesn't actually have to render the frame in that case, it just has to have a pixel buffer ready to offload to whatever hardware sends it over the link to the display. Apparently some people actually really like this, but it isn't rendering by any reasonable definition.
- pama 1y agoMaybe this is the better link: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-5050-desktop-gpu-and-laptops/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-5050-desktop-g...
- colejohnson66 1y agoWhy would anyone trust Nvidia to not stretch the truth, especially with a press release? It's been shown multiple times they inflate their numbers.
- cornstalks 1y agoThis is a better link: https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/nvidia-selling-lies-rtx-5070-founders-edition-review-benchmarks https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/nvidia-selling-lies-rtx-5070-fo... It's about the RTX 5070 but the criticisms still hold for the RTX 5050 since Nvidia is still doing the same shenanigans.
- kllrnohj 1y agoThat's Nvidia's marketing slide and if you note the fine print they are tested at different settings. The RTX 5050 is using 4x frame gen which the 3050 isn't. Techpowerup has the RTX 5050 as being 20% faster than the 3050 give or take, which is certainly not enough to justify upgrading
- happycube 1y agoThis card might've been forgivable with 16GB or a $149 MSRP, so of course they didn't do either...
- ryao 1y agoWhy did I not see any complaints when AMD used GDDR6 on their current generation products: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c422...
- throitallaway 1y agoCan't wait to buy one for $550.
- singhkays 1y agoI know you're being facetious but such is the market atm. I put something together to track the absurdity of it all :) https://gpuisfine.singhkays.com https://gpuisfine.singhkays.com
- mft_ 1y agoIt's insane. I've been tracking a few used 4090s on EU ebay this week, and the typical selling price is ~1950 EUR.
- singhkays 1y agohuh..you might has well get a 5090 for that price. Seems like it's dipping below MSRP there - https://www.techpowerup.com/338256/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-briefly-drops-below-msrp-in-europe https://www.techpowerup.com/338256/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-b...
- mft_ 1y agoIndeed; there are new 5090s from legit-looking sellers in eBay from around ~2300 EUR.
- lostmsu 1y agoI recently got 5060 Ti 16GB for $430
- Aurornis 1y agoThe emphasis on last-gen memory is misplaced. I don't care what memory technology is used as long as the performance is good for the price.
- seiferteric 1y agoYa, don't current gen Radeon cards use GDDR6 as well?
- ryao 1y agoThey do: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c422...
- Night_Thastus 1y agoIt's complete garbage and not worth buying. It's so cut down it's nearly useless outside of web browsing and very light games. The price is also effectively lie, it's going to be hard to get it for less than $300. Once we get some proper 3rd party test data in I'd be shocked if it's 5% better than a 4050 in raster without the use of fake frames.
- jekwoooooe 1y agoWhy is there so much hate against fake frames? I know you can’t tell the difference
- kllrnohj 1y agobecause you can tell the difference, they have quite a few artifacts, and they make latency worse which is especially problematic in the scenarios where you need the "performance" offered by fake frames. At this price point it's that last thing that's especially problematic. You may get 60fps in an fps counter with dlss 4, but it'll feel like 15-20fps and not be very playable
- jamesgeck0 1y agoNVidia themselves have said that framegen shouldn't be used if the card isn't hitting 60 FPS to start with because of the latency it introduces. If the card is cut down enough that it's struggling to hit 60 FPS in games, enabling framegen will do more harm then good. You can feel additional latency easily in competitive FPS or high speed arcade racing games.
- unaindz 1y agoYou can feel less than 50-60 fps on a management game where you only interact with the UI and move the camera around, not game breaking but doesn't feel great. And I used to play far cry 3 and CSGO at ~25 fps, I'm used to lack of performance.
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- lvl155 1y agoJust buy AMD AI Max+ no?
- anonym29 1y agoUndoubtedly a better system, but the 395 variant with a full 128GB of (soldered on) RAM, you're looking at ~$2k for the system. Comparing that to a $250 dGPU (that arguably isn't even worth that) is a very "apples to oranges" comparison.
- Kon-Peki 1y agoThis is not going to go well: > x50-class GeForce GPUs are among the most popular in the world, second only to the x60-class on Steam. Their price point and power profile are especially popular: > For anyone upgrading an older x50-class system > Each GeForce RTX 5050 graphics card is powered by a single PCIe 8-pin cable, drawing a maximum of 130 Watts at stock speeds, making it great for systems with power supplies delivering as little as 550 Watts. The 1050, 2050 and 3050 were all bus-powered cards. I doubt 95% these systems even have the cable coming from their power supply. Imagine all the poor saps that excitedly swap out their old card for this, and... nothing works. Source link: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-5050-desktop-gpu-and-laptops/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-5050-desktop-g...
- LorenDB 1y agoHey, at least it's not the infamous 12-pin connector. (Full disclosure, I have a 9070 XT with a 12-pin connector. No fires yet, though.)
- Kon-Peki 1y agoWell, maybe a molex-to-8pin-PCIe cable comes in the box!
- reginald78 1y agoTo bolster this, after the 750ti the 50 products have had pretty lame price to performance compared to the next step up, but have remained quite popular. Most people seem to argue that the lack of additional power is their main advantage and why they are popular. I personally think people remember being happy with the 750ti and just keep buying those cards.
- toast0 1y agoI've got at 1650 Super; it's not bus-powered either. I think it's got a 6-pin, but often you can plug a 6-pin into an 8-pin board and it'll just run a lower current limit (this might not be accurate --- a lot of internet comments say 8 pin boards will detect a 6-pin connector and refuse to work). A whole lot of modern computing gets ~ 90% of the performance with 50% of the power; so if using a 6-pin lead drops power to 50%, you would still get most of it. I've got a ~ 2006 380W power supply hanging out near my desk and it's got a 6-pin pci-e cable; I really don't think people won't have at least that, certainly not 95% of systems with a pci-e x16 slot.
- neepi 1y agoJust bought a 16Gb 5060 Ti for twice that. I don’t feel disappointed.
- happycube 1y agoYeah, moreso since that's the highest nvidia card this gen available with a sane power connector.
- sidewndr46 1y ago12VHPWR has to be one of the weirdest industry decisions I've seen in a while. So far I thought I had been able to avoid it, but recently bought a power supply that uses it on the modular cable connector. But it isn't really that uncommon either, I had a suzuki motorcycle that used a connector with 15 amp pins to handle 30 amps of current on one pin. I eventually concluded the only reason that connector was in the harness was to ease assembly and just cut it out entirely and soldered the junction together.
- neepi 1y agoOh yeah totally agree with that one. I hate Molex connectors but the new one is just stupid.
- LorenDB 1y agoI can't believe that nobody has yet mentioned the Intel Arc Battlemage B580. Same $250 MSRP (which has inflated, but every other GPU is inflated too, and the 5050 will probably inflate as well), but has 12 GB of VRAM and bats just below a 4060 Ti 16 GB[0]. [0]: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
- jamesgeck0 1y agoI've been pretty happy with my Arc A770 LE (16 GB). The drivers were rough at launch, but they've gotten much better, and at the time it was the best performance $350 could buy.
- prossercj 1y agoHow is it for gaming? Had any compatibility issues?
- KronisLV 1y agoI had both an A580 (not an A770, but at least something from that generation) and then later a B580, at one point even both in the same computer, side by side, when I wanted to use one for games and the other for encoding: https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/what-is-ruining-dual-gpu-setups https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/what-is-ruining-dual-gpu-setups https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/more-pc-shenanigans-my-setup-until-2030 https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/more-pc-shenanigans-my-setup-un... https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/two-intel-arc-gpus-in-one-pc-worse-than-expected https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/two-intel-arc-gpus-in-one-pc-wo... When paired with a worse CPU like a Ryzen 5 4500, the experience won't always be good (despite no monitoring software actually showing that the CPU is a bottleneck). When paired with a better CPU (I got a Ryzen 7 5800X to replace it, eventually with an AIO cause the temperatures were too high under full load anyways), either of them are pretty okay. In a single GPU setup either of them run most games okay, not that many compatibility or stability issues, even in older indie titles, though I've had some like STALCRAFT: X complain about running on an integrated GPU (Intel being detected as such). Most software also works, unless you want to run LLMs locally, where Nvidia will have more of an advantage and you'd go off the beaten path. Most annoying I've had were some stability issues near the launch of each card, for example running the B580 with their Boost functionality on in their graphics software sometimes crashed in Delta Force, no longer seems to be an issue. Temperature and power draw seem fine. Their XeSS upscaling is actually really good (I use it on top of native resolution in War Thunder as fancy AA), their frame generation feels like it has more latency than FSR but also better quality, might be subjective, but it's not even supported in that many games in the first place. Their video encoders are pretty nice, but sometimes get overloaded in intensive games instead of prioritizing the encoding over game framerate (which is stupid). Video editing software like DaVinci Resolve also seems okay. The games that run badly are typically Unreal Engine 5 titles, such as S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 and The Forever Winter, where they use expensive rendering techniques and to get at least 30 FPS you have to turn the graphics way down, to the point where the games still run like crap and end up looking worse than something from 5 years ago. Those were even worse on the A series cards, but with the B series ones become at least barely playable. In a dual GPU setup, nothing works that well, neither in Windows 11, nor Windows 10, neither with the A580 + B580, nor my old RX 580 + B580: system instability, some games ignoring the Intel GPU preference being set when an AMD one is available, low framerates when a video is playing on a secondary monitor (I have 4 in total), the inability to play games on the B580 and do encoding on the A580 due to either just OBS or also the hardware not having proper support for that (e.g. can't pick which GPU to do encode on, like you can with Nvidia ones, my attempts at patching OBS to do that failed, couldn't get a video frame from one GPU to the other). I moved back to running just the B580 in my PC. For MSRP, I'd say that the Intel Arc B580 is actually a good option, perhaps better than all A series cards. But the more expensive it gets, the more attractive alternatives from AMD and Nvidia become. Personally wouldn't get an A770 unless needed the VRAM or the price was really good. Also I’m not sure why the A580 needed two 8-pin connectors if it never drew that much power and also why the B580 has plenty of larger 3 fan versions when I could never really get high temps when running Furmark on the 2 fan version.
- speed_spread 1y agoFor such insanity, it should be labeled the RTX 5150
- gunalx 1y agoThe 50 line is the new gt-30 tier.
- distances 1y agoExcept for the price, where it's the new 60.
- dunno7456 1y agoIt will take Nvidia 10 years to release the firmware for PMU and then they will cancel it because it's "too old". Just like the they did with pascal, P520 and other perfectly working hardware that are barely usable to this day.
- drcongo 1y agoI'm still waiting for my DGX Spark. Starting to wonder if Nvidia have hired Musk for their PR to promise things they'll never deliver.
- yrcyrc 1y agoNot following much hardware news. What can I do with this or the Intel Arc? Play games? Run AI workload? Genuine question
- LorenDB 1y agoBoth. AI is dependent on available VRAM, so the B580 will run some larger models than the 5050.
- eighthourblink 1y agoComing from a 2060 Super, would this be a good upgrade? I dont really play newer high demand games, but i do enjoy my emulation. Currently on 2060 super and dont really have any issues with emulation.Ryzen 5 3600X / linux (of course :))
- nagisa 1y agoIt'd likely be a side-grade, unless you care specifically for the exact features that were introduced with 30/40/50 series (such as increasingly elaborate upscaling, other AI-driven features.) Although we don't know how 5050 will perform, 50 series have roughly ~same perf in render as models from 40 series at the same tier. 40 series in turn are only a mild bump over 30 at the same tier. And 30-series was a reasonable improvement over 20, but mostly in perf/$ measure and not raw perf. Extrapolating, 5050 is likely not going to give much of a boost if any, and spending money on a 8GB card in 2025 is just throwing money away at this point as software is now increasingly expecting to be able to work with >8GB of VRAM.